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Don't think I didn't notice how you sidestepped every other comment I made except for the last one about a series in freaking '03.
wrong again.
choke (chk)
v. choked, chok·ing, chokes
v.tr.
4. To fail to perform effectively because of nervous agitation or tension, especially in an athletic contest: choked by missing an easy putt on the final hole.
Don't think I didn't notice how you sidestepped every other comment I made except for the last one about a series in freaking '03.
If we accept the definition of choking as blowing a big lead, then I don't see how 2007 fits. If the definition expands to huge upset, then it does. I'm not aware that the latter has always been considered a part of the phenomenon of "choking." The Mets blowing that huge division lead a few years ago to the Phillies, the Yankees blowing a 3-0 lead, the Mavs blowing a 2.75 games to none lead in 2006, all of those fit the standard definition of choking.
let's educate mavfan a little more:
In sports, a choke is the failure of an athlete or an athletic team to win a game or tournament when the player or team had been strongly favored to win or had squandered a large lead in the late stages of the event. Someone who chokes may be known as a choker or, more derisively, as a choke artist. Choking in sport can be considered a form of analysis paralysis.
The opposite of choking is to be clutch. A clutch player or team rises to the occasion under pressure rather than collapsing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(sports)
Do you think putting something in giant text is for my benefit because I use reading glasses at the computer screen? Calm down.
wikipedia. I didn't realize that some random dude editing a wiki page is the final authority now. How do we know the Mavs suffered from nervous agitation. Could it be that they were out-executed, out-hustled and out-played by the Warrriors?
Findog, you are a re if you honestly believe that '07 was not a choke job by the mavs. A #1 seed is ALWAYS favored over an #8 seed, and not only could the mavs not get the job done, they got curbstomped in the process.
But the 2006 NBA Finals doesn't count, despite the 2-0 lead and despite Nowitzki's FTA to ice Game 3, because that was a conspiracy, not a choke, is that right?
what's sadder is you going by your own personal definition of the word and not the rest of the world's
Blowing a big lead is a choke job. The Mavs never led in that series. Embarrassing upset? Of course. If embarrassing upset is now synonymous with choke, then yeah, it's a choke. Is the Giants beating the Bills in the Super Bowl a choke job? What about Northern Iowa beating Kansas in this year's tournament? Is that a choke job?
Since when does "huge upset" automatically equal choke?
holy . I didn't know Findawg was this stupid.
A 13-3 team beating a 13-3 team?
You're the one being lazy and using wikipedia.what's sadder is you going by your own personal definition of the word and not the rest of the world's
They were huge underdogs.
The Warriors made a mid-season trade (two white boys for Jackson and Harrington) and went 15-2 in March and April with their new 8-man rotation fully healthy. That's a winning percentage of .882. They were a much-improved team after the trade. Mavs still should've beaten them, but you're an idiot if you think there was a 25-game gap in talent between the two teams.
Be quiet burrito breath, the grownups are discussing basketball.
Depends on your definition, I guess. You can choke in a game where you're ahead, then drop it. You can choke in a series by giving up your 3 game lead. Or you can choke in a season when you're a #1 seed and you lose to the 8th. YMMV.
Jeez, when did you become a re ed mouth-breather? Did you suffer through an episode of oxygen not getting to your brain?
I'll accept that the Mavs choked in 2007 if it is the prevailing norm that a huge upset automatically equals choking. I was aware that having a big lead and blowing it equals choking, but it's news to me that an upset is automatically a choke.
A huge upset automatically equals choking WHEN THE TEAM THAT IS UPSET IS FAVORED TO WIN. I don't care what the specific cir stances there were that you mavs fans mollycoddle yourselves with so you can sleep at night, but in the real world, a 67 win team is NEVER the underdog to an eighth seed. Especially coming off a Finals trip the year before. That is choking, pure and simple.
Stop being a re . I just showed you the whole world's definition of choking is not performing successfully when you are the favorite.
If you had any sense you would try to understand instead of being in denial. I thought you were better than that.
You showed me a link to wikipedia. That's embarrassing.
I never said that they were. Find one Mav fan anywhere that says that they were. I've always disputed that it's a "choke" when they never led in that series, when they lost the season series 4-0, and when the Warriors made a major mid-season trade that significantly erased the talent gap between the two teams. The Mavs still should've won that series, but I have a hard time accepting the premise that it was a huge choke and nothing more than an upset because of all those factors. Doesn't change the fact that it was an embarrassing and painful flameout to end the season, but it doesn't fit the definition of a choke to me.
My bad. I'm confusing you with the chorus of Mavs fans who have screamed conspiracy. I shouldn't have done that.
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