Bonner is ridiculously efficient on offense (career 47% FG and 41% 3G) , and he's not even having a good year, with the broken hand and all. I think he'll be back as a bench big unless he prices himself too high.
Bonner at 3.5 million is worth a of a lot more than McNothing at 10. Find a team that wants an old vet with nothing left but a contract they can drop off.
If you can find someone better than Bonner for his price--and its not a pipe dream fantasy--then bring it on.
I think 12 and 8 could be a bit much, but its well within his range if he gets more minutes. 11 and 7.5 is more like it though, that would be a nice steady improvement. That would be impressive, anything more than that would be simply awesome. He needs to learn to defend bigger guys using his body.
As long as his price doesn't get too high, I would gladly welcome Bonner back. Although sometime's he's just turned off during games, he's still a good player with a nice 3 and developing hookshot. A big man rotation next year of Duncan, Splitter, Bonner, Blair, and McDyess/Mahinmi is pretty damn solid to me.
Care to explain how the Spurs chances are better without Manu?
Spurs will be in the luxury tax level next year. Bonner at $3M will cost $6M to Spurs. If, as expected, Spurs made a financial effort to get Splitter, I doubt they will make another one to bring back Bonner.
i really liked him when he played about 10-15 min. per game. i as well as everybody else just got annoyed when he started doing 25+
i thought the OP was going to be him eating a sandwich somewhere
i think RC/pop keeps him for the right price
What a sad state of affairs when I actually wouldn't totally mind Bonner returning (in a limited capacity).
Bonner is great! Keep him.
I could really see the Spurs letting Bonner walk, especially if he going to be getting offers of $3M or more. The better option would be bringing back Anthony Tolliver, who has a similar skill-set to Bonner and is a superior passer, possibly signing Ian at a cheap 2 yr./$1M per contract and (hopefully) bringing Splitter over from Europe. That would give the Spurs a solid rotation of:
Duncan - 28-30 minutes per.
Splitter - 26-28 minutes per.
Blair - 20-24 minutes per.
McDyess - 15-18 minutes per
Tolliver/Mahinmi - whatever is left over, second night of back-to-back
They might offer him a lowball contract but with several years? I feel like he was overpaid for this last contract. I could see Matt wanting to stay as a Spur if he got enough years. But, most athletes don't want to take a paycut. The market will probably determine his price, not what they Spurs offer in the beginning.
But who really knows how this will play out. He will be on the backburner while they figure out other transactions first, and if those don't work out then bringing Bonner back will probably become more of a necessity.
"kick his worthless ass to the curb"
... which isn't very useful if you want him thrown under the bus.
I think Bonner is a valuable player to the team. At times because of need he has been over-used, but a big that can hit 3's has his uses. Think of him as a des ute man's Dirk.
I'd like him on the club.
I can link to the thread where I explained a few times how the Spurs will not win a le with manu's new deal, but you were there and didn't read it then, so...
Care to explain how the Spurs chances are better without Manu?
also, I'm not arguing that the spurs aren't better with manu than without (for a short while longer anyways), in an otherwise static reality, that's the lamest pro-player argument, the Knicks are a better team with McGrady on the floor, does that mean they should extend his 20+ million contract?
you are being stunningly obtuse, I try mightily to never resort to "you're an idiot!" but you're pushing me, I'm running out of other plausible explanations for your words
Last edited by vander; 04-12-2010 at 04:39 PM.
Popovich's system likes a three-point shooter at the 4 position coming off the bench (remember we had Robert Horry in years past), so I think we very well may see him back.
I'd like to see him back, assuming he doesn't cost too much. He's not a guy I want starting necessarily, but at 15-20 minutes per game coming off the bench, he's pretty good.
3 years for 9 million is a fair contract. his skill set hasnt improved that much but he gives nice effort. so i would say the exact same contract of 3 mil a year is fair for bonner.
Matt Bonner's baby hook off the dribble is new this year so I wouldn't say he hasn't improved. There is almost certainly a GM in the NBA that will pay more for Bonner than the Spurs can afford to with the luxury tax. Bonner is 8th in the NBA in adjusted plus/minus and has a WP48 in the 0.150-0.200 range (0.100 is average). Any GM (and fan) who cares at all about advanced statistical analysis would love him on their team, even at 4-5 million a year.
we must extend Bonner now!!!!
Spurs FO needs to be consistent, they gave Manu the max they could, regardless of what he did in the playoffs last year, regardless of what he will do in the playoffs this year, and regardless of his market value.
therefore Bonner deserves the same consideration, and should be offered a 4 year, 20 million dollar extention
after all, how are the Spurs better without Bonner?
if manu is wotrh over 10
booner is worth the mle
$18 million per. At least. Maybe more. Maybe a lot more.
22+ points and change with stifling defense against the ELITE teams: yes
14 points and change with mediocre defense against the lowly Wolves: NO
Look at all the cash we wasted this year overpaying players.
Finley - 2.5M
Mason - 3.75M
RJ - 14M
Or the money we wasted by not playing capable players.
Mahinmi - 900K
Ratliff - 1.1M
That's 22M we paid all these guys. And I blame Popovich for every dime. He brought them in here, yet he played guys he should have sat, and sat guys he should have played.
In my opinion, if Mahinmi and Ratliff had gotten more minutes, we'd be a legit le threat right now.
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