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    In my opinion, if Mahinmi and Ratliff had gotten more minutes, we'd be a legit le threat right now.
    LOL, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Yeah Ian Mahinmi and Theo Ratliff are the missing pieces no question

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    Bonner has turned into a decent role player and it will be difficult for the Spurs to hold on to him. As Bruno pointed out, Manu's contract has plunged the Spurs in to pretty deep tax territory which will limit what they can offer, especially if Splitter signs in the offseason. He would easily be worth 3.5-4 million a season for a team looking for a shooting big that makes over 40% of his threes and brings good energy off the bench.

    We will see how it plays out...but in light of all these cir stances I have pretty serious doubts about him returning next season.

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    Bonner has turned into a decent role player and it will be difficult for the Spurs to hold on to him. As Bruno pointed out, Manu's contract has plunged the Spurs in to pretty deep tax territory which will limit what they can offer, especially if Splitter signs in the offseason. He would easily be worth 3.5-4 million a season for a team looking for a shooting big that makes over 40% of his threes and brings good energy off the bench.

    We will see how it plays out...but in light of all these cir stances I have pretty serious doubts about him returning next season.
    Splitter is going to ask for 9-10m a year so yah, bye-bye Matt

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    If Splitter asks for 9-10 mil, it's o Matt because the Spurs can't offer Splitter that much money.

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    If Splitter asks for 9-10 mil, it's o Matt because the Spurs can't offer Splitter that much money.
    why not? He's not on the rookie scale anymore

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    He's not, but that doesn't mean the Spurs suddenly have 9-10 mil of cap space. MLE is as high as the Spurs can go.

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    He's not, but that doesn't mean the Spurs suddenly have 9-10 mil of cap space. MLE is as high as the Spurs can go.
    Okay, well then you should have said the spurs "won't" offer that much $$$ not "can't"

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    Okay, well then you should have said the spurs "won't" offer that much $$$ not "can't"
    Why? It's a fact that the Spurs can't offer Splitter 9-10 mil, even if they wanted to.

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    Okay, well then you should have said the spurs "won't" offer that much $$$ not "can't"
    Jesus, what's so hard to understand?
    they CAN'T offer that much.
    they CAN only offer the MLE.
    this are the CBA rules. end of story.

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    I think if Bonner performs well this POs, then that might change the at ude of many about his value to the Spurs. But unfortunately there will always be some who can never be convinced.

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    theres not much we can do when we are over the cap

    gettin rid of him or rj, we only have MLE and minimum to play with only...

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    yeah POs.
    year by year people seem to forget that Bonner's career PO record is an absolute disaster.
    probably he is the guy with the worst drop from RS performance to PO performance ever.
    (16 career PO games, 1.6 PPG, 27% FG, 23% 3s down from 6.7 PPG on 47% FG and 41% 3s)

    Bonner is a great guy, who delivers some decent things and who fits nice with the Spurs overall style.
    but as long as this guy turns into the basketball version of a brick factory come PO time, we don't need to discuss if he should either be extended or if he is undervalued on this board.

    his future depends on Splitter anyhow. if Splitter can't be signed, he has very good chance to get 2-3 more years on 3 million per. if Splitter is signed, Spurs might still try to keep Bonner, but very likely they won't offer more than 2 years on 2M per. maybe give him a PO for the 2nd year.
    (ironically the tandem of Splitter and Bonner might work pretty well together)

    Bonner won't get the really big offers on the FA market. I really can't see any team pay him more than 3 M per.

    btw. IMO Bonner has done pretty well financially in his career till now. about 15 million (including Europe play) are not bad for a former #45 pick with very limited athleticism and overall skills. when all is said and done he will have pocketed about 20M. that's not to shabby. and reportedly Matt is the biggest penny-pincher outside of Scotland. so he will do well in his future, even without another big NBA contract.

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    If Boner has to go to make way for Spitter, so be it.

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    If we don't sign Bonner, I think that Spurs should make an offer to Mirza Teletovic.

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    If we don't sign Bonner, I think that Spurs should make an offer to Mirza Teletovic.
    Teletovic definitely is an interesting player and could work nice in the Bonner role, but as far as I know he has signed a contract with Vitoria till 2014.
    so even if there is a buy out clause, if Spurs sign Splitter, there won't be enough money form the MLE left, to offer a contract big enough for salary and buy out I assume.

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    His +/- stats make him invaluable to the team.

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    bonner is a good fit on team that can create for him...trade his ass

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    Splitter is going to ask for 9-10m a year so yah, bye-bye Matt
    Splitter hasn't proven to be worth 10 million.

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    Teletovic definitely is an interesting player and could work nice in the Bonner role, but as far as I know he has signed a contract with Vitoria till 2014.
    so even if there is a buy out clause, if Spurs sign Splitter, there won't be enough money form the MLE left, to offer a contract big enough for salary and buy out I assume.
    I think he won't be in Vitoria until 2014. Caja Laboral has some financial issues and his salary is really high for them (~1.5M€)

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    yeah POs.
    year by year people seem to forget that Bonner's career PO record is an absolute disaster.
    probably he is the guy with the worst drop from RS performance to PO performance ever.
    (16 career PO games, 1.6 PPG, 27% FG, 23% 3s down from 6.7 PPG on 47% FG and 41% 3s)

    Bonner is a great guy, who delivers some decent things and who fits nice with the Spurs overall style.
    but as long as this guy turns into the basketball version of a brick factory come PO time, we don't need to discuss if he should either be extended or if he is undervalued on this board.
    I still think Bonner's sample size in the playoffs is far too small. In 10 of those 16 games he played 6 minutes or less. As much as I like Matty, if he lays an absolute egg in these playoffs, I say you let him walk, pretty much no matter what the price tag is or what happens with Splitter. However, until we actually see him in another playoff series (hopefully 2, or 3, or 4...), I think the jury is very much out on whether Bonner can play in the post-season.

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    If we don't sign Bonner, I think that Spurs should make an offer to Mirza Teletovic.
    Uhoh, KBP is that you?

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    Uhoh, KBP is that you?
    , no

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    I know it's difficult (almost impossible) but I'd like to see Bonner and Tiago with the same contracts

    3years $9 Million

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    we need to move McDyess

    then we can sign Bonner, Splitter, and Mahinmi and actually have minutes for them.

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