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    Right. With Parker and Hill back, Hairston has been used to keep others out of foul trouble and for garbage time.

    That's reasonable.

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    So needing a stop to end a game or a few good defensive possessions is 'garbage time'?

    That's reasonable.

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    From what I remember, he got most of his threes in spot up situations from kickouts from penetrating guards or post players or from working the ball around the horn when he wasn't the fist option. Sounds very Spur like.
    Ya know, I was in the middle of something when I first responded to this. But, if that was the case, wouldn't that bode well for him if he's given the opportunity next year? I mean, now that Fin's gone and Bogans (the player he outplayed to start the season, before Pop went with the more known quan y) is, at this current time, his only compe ion for the 'centerpiece' role, is it out of the question that Malik could thrive in the role if given the la iude and minutes Bogans received?

    You did say he had 3-point success in a Spur-like fashion.

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    So needing a stop to end a game or a few good defensive possessions is 'garbage time'?

    That's reasonable.
    Did he do that the last couple of games?

    We'll see what is normal for Hairston now that Hill and Parker are back.

    Ya know, I was in the middle of something when I first responded to this. But, if that was the case, wouldn't that bode well for him if he's given the opportunity next year? I mean, now that Fin's gone and Bogans (the player he outplayed to start the season, before Pop went with the more known quan y) is, at this current time, his only compe ion for the 'centerpiece' role, is it out of the question that Malik could thrive in the role if given the la iude and minutes Bogans received?

    You did say he had 3-point success in a Spur-like fashion.
    Right.

    Now he has to do for the actual Spurs.

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    Did he do that the last couple of games?

    We'll see what is normal for Hairston now that Hill and Parker are back.
    What's normal for Hairston is the cir stance in which he usually gets minutes: go in and get stops, cold, and be ready at all times because there's no telling when you're going to be used.

    Right.

    Now he has to do for the actual Spurs.
    I'd love to see him have the opportunity.

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    What's normal for Hairston is the cir stance in which he usually gets minutes: go in and get stops, cold, and be ready at all times because there's no telling when you're going to be used.
    Exactly. Which will probably be less with Parker and Hill's being back.

    Plus garbage time.

    I'd love to see him have the opportunity.
    He gets it whenever he plays.

    No excuses.

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    Did he get hurt!!??

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    Did he get hurt!!??
    Tweaked an ankle in the last minute of the T-Wolves game.

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    If Hairston is able to go for game one of the playoffs (which sounds likely), Pop's dream of having no one over 6-9 (I'm not going by the foolish 6-10 listing of Bonner) on the bench (active) will be ruined because he'll be forced to have Mahinmi active. No offense to Temple, who's been solid and like Pop said, the Spurs "may have found one", but he should be inactive in the playoffs.

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    Exactly. Which will probably be less with Parker and Hill's being back.

    Plus garbage time.
    So we agree on the limited role he'll play, you're just adamant on the semantics.

    'It's garbage time, I tell you!'

    And one other thing: Why is it that you keep bringing Hill and Parker up?

    Hairston's a wing. He'd likely be out there with them in a defensive lineup. He's usually out there with Bogans (Bogans guarding the 2) or to replace Bogans (like he was against the Lakers to close the game against Kobe) or RJ, not at the expense of Hill or Parker. (Actually, he has replaced Tony, but that only helps his chances of seeing the court at some point -- whether it's for a possession or more.)

    He gets it whenever he plays.

    No excuses.
    Rhythm, confidence and certainty ... these seem foreign to you.

    I'm hoping Pop and the Spurs are grooming Malik, much in the same way they did Jack, to take over Bogans' role. Then will be able to see what he can do.

    No excuses.

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    So we agree on the limited role he'll play, you're just adamant on the semantics.

    'It's garbage time, I tell you!'
    Been garbage lately.

    And one other thing: Why is it that you keep bringing Hill and Parker up?

    Hairston's a wing. He'd likely be out there with them in a defensive lineup. He's usually out there with Bogans (Bogans guarding the 2) or to replace Bogans (like he was against the Lakers to close the game against Kobe) or RJ, not at the expense of Hill or Parker. (Actually, he has replaced Tony, but that only helps his chances of seeing the court at some point -- whether it's for a possession or more.)
    Hill and Parker are back. Hairston is playing garbage time. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.

    Rhythm, confidence and certainty ... these seem foreign to you.

    I'm hoping Pop and the Spurs are grooming Malik, much in the same way they did Jack, to take over Bogans' role. Then will be able to see what he can do.

    No excuses.
    Except you keep making that excuse.

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    Been garbage lately.

    Hill and Parker are back. Hairston is playing garbage time. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.
    Hill and Parker wouldn't preclude Hairston from seeing his 'garbage' minutes or possessions. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.

    Except you keep making that excuse.
    You're being obtuse (and I've never used that word or even looked it up).

    Look, if you don't understand the difference in being entrusted with a role and the la ude to make mistakes without losing said role, there's nothing I can tell you. I'm not saying he should be given the role, I'm saying he earned the role over Bogans by any on-court measure this year going into the season.

    Should he earn it again during the offseason, whether it's over Bogans or anyone else, and he's afforded the same opportunity Bogans was, then there's no excuse; you can't honestly believe a player like Malik, and the assets he brings that could potentially help this team, is going to be the same regardless of the certainty in minutes or role.

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    I'm saying he won't necessarily be different. You are free to argue he must be, but that doesn't make it so.

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    I'm not arguing anything.

    We both believe his impact will be minimal and that his minutes will be sparse, if existent.

    You just seem to think it's because of Parker and Hill. I don't.

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    I'm not arguing anything.

    We both believe his impact will be minimal and that his minutes will be sparse, if existent.

    You just seem to think it's because of Parker and Hill. I don't.
    That's arguing.

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    Arguing implies some kind of butthurtedness to me, even if it's not necessary.

    I'm just shootin' the .

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    Arguing implies some kind of butthurtedness
    I argue it does not.

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    Well played.

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    Well, as predicted Mike Harris drops 45 and the Vipers advance to play Austin, most likely starting on Saturday.

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    I noticed they've got a D-League game on NBA TV tomorrow but it doesn't say who.

    Any idea? (It might be a replay, though.)

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    This thread has gotten ridiculously serious all of a sudden. This is a thread with a marijuana reference in the le. I think everyone knows Hairston is a bit player at this point who plays in limited minutes and needs to improve his game. Was this the recent revelation?

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    I noticed they've got a D-League game on NBA TV tomorrow but it doesn't say who.

    Any idea? (It might be a replay, though.)
    It's Friday's first round game between Tulsa and Sioux Falls.

    The Toros' game will definitely be on Versus Saturday. The only real question is if it's game one or two. Hopefully it's game one since that will be in Austin.

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    This thread has gotten ridiculously serious all of a sudden. This is a thread with a marijuana reference in the le. I think everyone knows Hairston is a bit player at this point who plays in limited minutes and needs to improve his game. Was this the recent revelation?
    We're just arguing.

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    Marijuana?

    Arguing?



    I'll be damned ... it can be done.

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    Toros will be Saturday at 2 PM - Game 1 in Austin

    Monday at 7:30 PM in RGV and if necessary Wednesday at 7:30 PM in RGV
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