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You failed to take into consideration strength of schedule.
learn to spell before you call your shot.
You failed to take into consideration strength of schedule.
You play who is on the schedule. Dirk shouldn't curbstomp those teams? Dropping 40 on the road in Portland in a desperation must-win game last Friday is as impressive as anything Manu has done.
um, no it's not. Manu's been doing it against the likes of LA, Cleveland, Boston, and Orlando, as well.
Honestly I don't think it's obvious who the "hotter" of the two players is between nowitzki and ginobili, mostly because there are far too many potential confounding variables for the spurs. There may also be confounding variables for the mavs but I'm not as familiar with them because I don't watch all of their games.
For the spurs, however, with parker coming back one might intuitively think that it's more important for Parker to get relatively more touches than he perhaps "deserves," at the expense of duncan and ginobili, for the sole purpose of trying to "jump start" him into a more all star-caliber form.
Popovich has also been pretty blatant about admitting the fact that he still constantly worries about injuries with duncan and ginobili (mostly with ginobili). Who knows, it's entirely possible that Popovich told Ginobili to "tone down" his aggressive driving to the basket in some of the later games, particularly against the non-playoff contender teams, just as an effort to minimize any potential injury (and perhaps give him more "rest" going into the playoffs). Obviously I don't know, but it's possible and, most importantly, it's not a terribly unreasonable assumption given what we've seen in the past.
These sorts of issues complicate the matter too much to make a statement either way in terms of who's playing better going in.
What Dirk has done against the last winning teams we've played:
Portland - 40 and 10
Zombie Sonics - 30 and 13
Orlando - 24 and 6
Denver - 34 and 10
I'll happily give you the first 3, but Denver is falling apart.
The ? Well Boston and LA are playing like ass right now, so I am now officially unimpressed by what Manu did against them.
let it go, findog.
how could a team with 4 all-stars possibly lose to 2 chicks and the chokers?
I didn't get the impression anybody gave a rat's ass what you think about Manu.The ? Well Boston and LA are playing like ass right now, so I am now officially unimpressed by what Manu did against them.
Yeah..the Nuggets are actually doing better than the Lakers and Celtics. If you're going to say that the Denver win is trivial because they are "falling apart" then Ginobili's performances over Boston and L.A. also become trivial by default.
key to the series.
wouldn't mind seeing some malik or ian on dirk...just for s and giggles...
i don't know if ian is too slow or if malik is too short...but our spurs always had success when putting bowen on dirk...damn shame he had to get older...
Last edited by bigzak25; 04-16-2010 at 12:25 PM.
Except for the fact that the Lakers and Boston, for all their recent offensive inadequacies, are still pretty talented defensive squads. Denver? Not so much.
You know with Ginobili, his contract extension is a big factor in potentially affecting his playoff play.
Who knows - was the looming threat of becoming a F.A. and not being re-signed by the Spurs an important factor in spurring him on to playing the way he did last month?
If it was, then will the security of knowing that he's staying in S.A. for the remainder of his N.B.A. career cause him to lose some of the impetus (whether it be drive, motivation, who knows) that was pivotal in inspiring his phenomenal play?
Maybe it would've been better to save his contract re-extension until after the playoffs.
You do, since you're apparently commenting back.I didn't get the impression anybody gave a rat's ass what you think about Manu.
Both Dirk and Manu saved their best ball for April. We will see which team has more answers for them.
dude, Manu's heart has never been in question...only his health.
he can surely carry this team as we have all seen, but for how long playing the way he does is the question.
it's better than letting him sit there and stare at jefferson's contract.
Dirk - 28 points on 11-19 shooting, 37 points on 14-22 shooting against Boston this year.
Dirk - 31 points on 10-19 shooting last time we played the Lakers.
You're welcome.
Way to change the subject. We were discussing the last four contenders you played during the most recent roll y'all were on, not Dirk's record against contenders earlier in the season. I pointed out that of those 4, one is running on fumes, which led to some reactionary and also-off-the-subject anti-Manu butthurt on your part.
Listen, I'm happy for Dirk and the Mavs in general -- truly, I am. I think this is going to be a great series, and think you guys have at least as good a shot as we do. But seriously? Stop being such a pussy and thinking any comment that doesn't gild the Maverick lilly is motivated purely by homerism. As good as y'all are, you should be the first to admit you're far from a perfect team. That you don't makes your confidence in your team suspect.
lol manu > dirk
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The main reason is that the superstars of the Spurs will come to play in this series (Manu is now a superstar and Duncan has had enough rest - while Dirk from a clinical perspective remains "le superstar con testes minimus") and a refreshed Parker is going to shame Kidd into submission with his speed.
The Mavs are a fine, talented and a deep team; but the difference is the resilient and surging Spurs have become in the last four weeks a truly great team and are now turning into the squad that many thought could win the West and at the right time.
The drive for 5 goes on in 5 with the Spurs getting into the heads of the Mavs early and often.
Where is the off the subject anti-Manu stuff? You keep moving the goalposts. You point to Manu being hot down the stretch against good teams and I point out that Dirk has done the same. You state that you're not impressed by his performances against one of those teams, and that torching LA and Boston is more impressive because of their defense... so I post Dirk's numbers the last time he played those teams and now you have sand in your vag because your thesis (Manu is on a better roll than Dirk, Manu is in a better grove right now than Dirk) keeps getting disproved with facts and figures. You pretty much conceded the argument by resorting to ad hominem in your last post, so if you want to go that route, why don't you stick a tampon in your bleedhole and chill out?
So disputing that Manu is hotter right now than Dirk, and according to some in this thread, is a better player than Dirk*, is homerism?Stop being such a pussy and thinking any comment that doesn't gild the Maverick lilly is motivated purely by homerism
Where did I say the Mavs are a perfect team? This is going to be a tough series. Some Mavs fans seem to think this is going to be a cakewalk because the Mavs have gotten the better of San Antonio lately. I'm not that foolish.As good as y'all are, you should be the first to admit you're far from a perfect team. That you don't makes your confidence in your team suspect.
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At least one Mavs fan recognizes this will be a tough series for them - Dirk to be fair has been very impressive of late and he will hurt the Spurs. However, Spurs can live with Dirk scoring a lot as long as others on the Mavs do not go postal on the Spurs - those that left the Mavs arguebly have hurt the Spurs more than the additions so let the games begin!
This WILL be a tough series for the Mavs. Just wanted to wish ya'll a good series from Tarrant County. I'm not a Spurs hater like most fans and have ultimate respect for what ya'll's organization has and can still do. That said, go mavs!!!!
BTW, Mavs in 7
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