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I'm just loving the moral victories Spurfan is pulling out of their ass.
Duncan played harder than Dirk?
I'm telling you...Dirk can go for 80 for all I care if we contain Butler & Terry and don't let big head Kidd get any 10 seconds-to-shoot 3's we will win...PERIOD
Let Dirk go wild, he's gonna regardless
stop the peanut gallery that rolls with him and you win
I'm just loving the moral victories Spurfan is pulling out of their ass.
Duncan played harder than Dirk?
34 free throws is no big deal if you actually take the ball to the hole and draw some fouls, but Dirk got his free throws on his patented fadeaway jumper or just standing there because Bonner and Bogans get no respect.
Not to talk trash, but were you also thinking that you lost by 7 without Manu and Duncan so it was an easy victory over the Mavs with them starting? Now you have them starting and we win by 6 with Terry only scoring 5 points. I think you might be reaching. It was a great effort by your team but the Hack-a-Damp in the 3rd showed Pops desperation. Mavs in 6.
Yes, I got it. My apologies--I shouldn't have directed that response at you personally like that.
bag commentating, awful officiating, Dirk couldn't miss, and Caron made a few jumpshots. Everything pretty much broke the way of the Mavs.
Still, the way Dirk got off the chain and the fact that we have no-one who can defend him is a major worry.
On to game 2.
I dont know how Dirk even sweats really..I mean he jogs down the court, gets the ball and does a fade away jumper. rinse and repeatI'm just loving the moral victories Spurfan is pulling out of their ass.
Duncan played harder than Dirk?
What do you think about George Hill? Do you think he is hurt a lot? Rusty or just choked a bit under the playoff pressure.
Manu, Tim and Tony played pretty good tonight. Manu found it harder at the end because Dallas tried to send another defender over to him.
NONE. that is why you cut these guys.
Rebs, TP defense, Manu and TD TOs, Jefferson, Hill injury, Bonner, Mason, Bogans, Pop, small ball, all that were much worst than the refs.
You're a funny guy. When Dirk starts banging in the paint and taking the abuse Tim does and NOT getting calls on obvious and-1 opportunities, then we'll talk.I'm just loving the moral victories Spurfan is pulling out of their ass.
Duncan played harder than Dirk?
No moral victory, just realize the position we're in which isn't a terrible one given the cir stances.
Manu interview on NBA TV.
Yes & No!
Yes - Cuz they called to many BS calls for Dirk!
No - Cuz the Spurs turned the ball over WAY to much which resulted in 24 points!!
Ultimately Manu needs to do a better job of passing!!
It's more or less true, especially when you look at the FTA/FGA disparity between the two:
2006:
Duncan(reg season): .437
Dirk(reg season): .383
In the second round, Dirk received a sizable boost compared to TD:
Dirk vs Spurs: .726
Duncan vs Mavs: .626
This year:
Duncan(reg season): .345
Dirk(reg season): .389
Duncan(tonight): .25
Dirk(tonight): .857 ( ing ridiculous for a perimeter player)
Dirk's field goal attempts decrease while the amount of free throws he takes skyrockets. Mav fan really has no right to about Wade when Dirk is getting such preferential treatment from the refs.
Thanks man. I was actually going to ask you what you think of the game early in the 4th quarter as you're pretty objective and fair.
Manu played very good, but couldn't quite hang with Dirk. I'd say Manu was still the second best player out there. I'd say the Spurs had about 3 of the top 5 players out there on the court, but no one else showed up and everyone else on Dallas played a very solid game. Their role players didn't try to go one on one and really played within their game and exploited the Spurs.
Obviously the big 3 are coming to play. More efficiency and aggressiveness out of TP will help as well. But, with Dice stepping up Hill and/or RJeff need to start generating more offense.
Hopefully, in the case of RJeff this was a case of first game jitters (since he did contribute a mite in some other categories).
RJeff/TP need to just start attacking relentlessly. Hill as well, but his injury status remains iffy.
I think Tim was rusty. Pop should never have sat him that last game of the season. Too many days off. Tim looks real spry like you said. I think he WILL BE HOF DUNCAN for the rest of this series.
Even Lebron wasn't that great after all that rest.
How did Kobe do? Did he rest at the end of the season and if so did he look a little rusty tonight?
DPG you were right on the money about that last regular season game. Pop should have just played everyone and rested Hill instead.
Dice was definitely big, particularly with his rebounding/extension of plays.
The Spurs need someone to stand baseline with a cheap cardboard sign with "Need a STOP" written in black marker.
I think you're too harsh on TP Defense IMO. He left one open 3 to Kidd but for the rest I thought he was not so bad in particular against Terry
They both played hard. You can't say one played harder than the other. I think people say Dirk didn't play hard because he takes more jumpers. That's just what it looks like, but yeah both played hard tonight.I'm just loving the moral victories Spurfan is pulling out of their ass.
Duncan played harder than Dirk?
Updated.
Nowitzki leads Mavs past Spurs 100-94 in opener
By Jaime Aron
Dirk Nowitzki was amazed. Even after hitting nearly every shot he took, the San Antonio Spurs still weren’t sending more defenders at him.
So he kept shooting. And scoring.
Nowitzki made 12 of 14 shots and all 12 of his free throws, coming up with 36 points to carry the Dallas Mavericks to a 100-94 victory over the rival Spurs on Sunday night in Game 1 of their first-round series.
“Sometimes,” Nowitzki said, “you have one of those nights where the basket is big.”
The Spurs slowed Nowitzki in the first round last year by swarming him with two and sometimes three defenders. He was expecting it again this series and practically begged them to bring it on with the way he attacked whoever was covering him.
Nowitzki drove on Antonio McDyess and shot over Matt Bonner. There was a heave over McDyess and Richard Jefferson that was flung at the basket in hopes of getting a foul called; there was no whistle, but there was a basket. Nowitzki made a conventional jumper over Jefferson in the fourth quarter as if his defender wasn’t even there. One time when Keith Bogans found himself matched up with Nowitzki, all he could do was foul him.
“He was impressive,” San Antonio’s Manu Ginobili said. “We know he can score 36, but missing only two shots is what makes it really hard. He made some shots with the defense all over him. You can’t control those kind of shots.”
Caron Butler scored 22 points and Brendan Haywood added 10 in their playoff debuts for Dallas. Both were part of a major trade in February that turned a good Mavericks team into a much better one. They rolled into the playoffs having won eight of 10 and five straight.
Jason Kidd added 13 points, 11 assists and eight rebounds for the Mavericks, and Erick Dampier had five points, 12 rebounds and lots of bruises from bumping against Tim Duncan.
“I thought we did a great job of executing our offense and getting the ball where we needed to,” Butler said. “We shared the ball and did a lot of good things.”
San Antonio got plenty from its stars Duncan, Ginobili and Tony Parker. But that was about it.
While Duncan had 27 points and eight rebounds, Ginobili scored 26 and Parker had 18 points and four assists, the rest of the club made only 10 of 26 shots.
Antonio McDyess was the only other player to crack double digits, scoring 10.
George Hill started at point guard, despite having aggravated an ankle injury Wednesday, and was scoreless with two turnovers in 18 minutes. He played just 2:31 in the second half. Richard Jefferson had four points in 32 minutes and Bogans was scoreless in 16 minutes.
The poor distribution of points was only part of the Spurs’ problem.
“We didn’t play focused enough,” Duncan said. “We just weren’t there all night.”
They were outrebounded by eight and gave up 13 offensive rebounds. They had 17 turnovers, leading to 20 Dallas points. They also took just 14 free throws; Nowitzki and Dampier each took 12.
“We lost by six points and made all those mistakes,” Ginobili said. “That’s the good side of the story, that we really can improve.”
The Spurs took a short flight home to sleep in their own beds and get to work on a new game plan at their headquarters. They have some time to figure things out as Game 2 isn’t until Wednesday night in Dallas.
“We don’t care what they throw at us,” Mavs guard Jason Terry said. “For us, it’s all about our mental and physical approach to the game. Mentally when we’re right, we’re hard to beat.”
The game was tight the first 2 1/2 quarters, with Dallas leading most of the time. Then San Antonio edged ahead and the lead swapped hands a few times.
Nowitzki helped the Mavs start to pull away with a 7-0 run all on his own. San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich countered by having Roger Mason foul Dampier on the next three possessions.
“We hoped he would miss free throws rather than Dirk killing us the way he was,” Popovich said.
Dampier went 1 of 2 on his first two trips. Fans figured out the Hack-a-Damp routine and booed it the third time, then cheered when Dampier made them both. Popovich scrapped it then, too.
The Spurs tightened their defense on Nowitzki after that, but he simply turned into a distributor, moving the ball into areas vacated by the extra guys who came after him. Jason Terry and Kidd each cashed in 3-pointers that helped Dallas eventually go ahead by 12 late in the fourth quarter.
“You pick your poison and whatever you do, you try to do it well,” Popovich said. “Dirk got the best of whatever we tried to do with him tonight. We tried a lot of different things, but he beat them all.”
NOTES: Nowitzki made his final 74 free throws in the regular season, so the 12 for 12 was no surprise. … The Spurs are considered an old team. But the Mavericks are older, both their starting five (32.6 years to 31.2) and their overall roster (30.3 to 27.8). … Mavs coach Rick Carlisle was battling a weak voice because of a cold. “I’m trying to find the right frequency when it fires and it works,” he said before the game.
Last edited by duncan228; 04-18-2010 at 11:41 PM.
I wore a t-shirt today. No bears attacked me today. Therefore, t-shirts repel bears.
They both played well imo.....TD played harder given what he had to overcome, but again, that's just me.
To ICE and DPGtough loss...I've been on Spurstalk for the last several years....I don't post much so as not to irritate good Spurs fans. But SpursTalk is a very good forumn so I lurk a lot... you two are very good fans, you root for your Spurs but are objective in your analysis...here's to a good series!
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