lol easily the better better
lol manu > Dirk
Barkley is easily the better better how is this even an argument![]()
lol easily the better better
lol manu > Dirk
Dirt is currently in his prime so all the young mavs fans assume hes the best PF ever, hahahaha.
Duncan's prime was '98 thru 2005, hes WAY past his prime but they judge him by how he is now vs Dirt in his prime
Duncan's prime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dirt
It's ok, no need to cry![]()
editing quotes to post that is almost as funny as the better better.
there there, let's not get carried away here
lol ffadicted
lol spurfan
lol likes weiner in his butt
Breaking it down...
Scoring - edge Barkley. Barkley didn't have Dirk's range but Dirk doesn't have Barkley's post game and toughness either. When it comes to putting the ball in the basket efficiently and putting pressure on the defense Barkley's game is better.
Playmaking- Barkley. His game in the paint caused more double-teams to come his way and opened up things for his teammates a lot more than Dirk's perimeter game.
Rebounding - edge Barkley. No contest here.
Defense - Draw. Neither player really makes a big impact on this end of the floor. Barkley was notoriously lazy on that end and I remember in '95 or '96 (maybe both) the GMs voted him worst defender in the league.
Intangibles - Draw. I can't think of any for either player lol.
lol butthurt mavs fans can't see the obvious fact that Barkley > > > Dirk. It's not like I'm trying to take away anything Dirk has done, they're both great players... it's just the obvious truth. hitmanyr's pretty much got it right up there
Last edited by ffadicted; 04-20-2010 at 04:03 PM.
Thank you sir. I like Dirk, but Barkley was better. Given a choice between a prime Dirk and a prime Barkley, the Mavs organization would even pick Barkley.
Dirk's resume compares pretty well with Barkley... and Barkley is a first- or second-tier HOFer. So where is the shame in this?
Barkley is better at rebounding, everything else is pretty much a wash.
I say Barkley malone and dirk are three of the greatest that have never won a le.
But that LAST part alone leaves them short as GREATEST PF ever debate if we INSIST on calling Duncan a PF ...he wins hands down.
But be honest the position (PF) is packed with great stars but not a lot of champions in recent years. Kemp, barkley, Malone, amare Dirk were amazing and dirk still is but none have rings. KG would still be ringles if the Celts hadnt have saved him.
The Celts saved KG just as much as he saved them.
Saying Dirk is better than Barkley is a stretch to say the least. You can't say one is noticeably better than the other. They both have 1 MVP, 1 finals appearance (however I will say that the 1993 Suns would have curb stomped, face ed, ass raped and bukkaked on the 2006 Heat), while they both will be known as below average defenders and both have had several playoff hick-ups.
Because the 93 Suns were so good at stopping one great wing player, they obviously would have stopped the other.
And before the lol at comparing Wade with MJ starts, in PER terms Wade's performace throughout the playoffs and in the Finals was Jordan level (actually in the finals his PER was higher than any Jordan Finals series).
Even if 2006 Wade = 1993 Jordan (which is total, utter bull to an extreme level)
Dan Majerle's perimeter D> Adrian Griffin/Devin Harris's perimeter D
Scottie Pippen >>>>>>>>>> anyone other than Wade on the 2006 Heat
Pippen and MJ's supporting cast >>>> Wade and Shaq's supporting cast
1993 Bulls defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2006 Heat defense
Last time I checked Dirk's career isn't over and he's still in his prime.
When all is said and done we can talk again.
And his years playing as washed up player are also to come which means that his career average stats will decrease.
DoK are you simply saying the Suns wouldn't choke like the Mavs did? Is that all? We all know Dallas was clearly the better team and was well on their way to curb stomping, face ing, ass raping and bukkake-ing the Heat as well, until they pulled a choke job of epic proportions.
If you're saying that Suns team was better than the 06 Mavs, I think that's easily debatable. If you're just saying they wouldn't pull an epic chokejob in the Finals against a far inferior opponent, then I'd probably agree.
I'm saying the 1993 Suns were a better team than the 2006 Mavs, so yeah I'm also indirectly saying they wouldn't have choked. Feel free to debate that if you want but I don't think it's close when you look at everything that team had.
Eh, I guess. Pierce was obviously the alpha dog of that team though.
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