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    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/20...rch-and-state/

    Sarah Palin spoke in Kentucky about the phony concept of "sepereation of Church and State." Have a gander at her latest troll job, I mean, speaking engagement...

    Lest anyone try to convince you that God should be separated from the state, our Founding Fathers, they were believers.
    I like her use of the word "lest," totally pious! Oh, but here's the part in the Bill of Rights that pwns her...

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to pe ion the Government for a redress of grievances.
    One of the greatest lessons I learned about writing/speaking is to know the audience. Sarah Palin knows exactly who she is talking to and she's earning every cent of the thousands of dollars she's getting for each of these speaking engagements. She's getting rich by blowing chunks of fecal matter out of her mouth while Americans suffer through this ty economy, job, and housing market...we can only hope to attain her level of genius!

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    I am not redwood DJ Mbenga's Avatar
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    no politician writes their . she just recites it.

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    Motivation for me... Stringer_Bell's Avatar
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    no politician writes their . she just recites it.
    She's more of a professional speaker now than a politician. I'd expect that she writes much of her own material, no? If someone is writing this stuff for her, they are nailin' Palin's "voice" down quite exceptionally.

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    She's a political at this point. She'd say anything for money.

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    some people buy snuggies or go to britney spears concerts. others waste their money on palin. to each their own i guess.

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    God, I hate this woman sometimes.

    Lest anyone try to convince you that God should be separated from the state, our Founding Fathers, they were believers.
    Right, because there's no possible way to be a believer AND recognize the value of a separated church and state. *slams head into wall*

    Also, it's not like the Founding Fathers were straight-up Christians. Many were Deists. I'm sure if you shared the ideas of Deism with many Christians today, it would be laughed at/derided.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that NASCAR is not a sport, our Founding Fathers, they were white guys.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that kids should be able to play on their neighbors' lawns, our Founding Fathers, they were old people.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that the Renaissance Festival is a waste of money, our Founding Fathers, they wore funny hats.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that you shouldn't be allowed to show up to work drunk, our Founding Fathers, they drank beer.

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    Oh and before I forget,




    ...and that goes for any discussion about Sarah Palin. Word for word.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that white people are just as equal as other colors of people, our Founding Fathers, they owned slaves.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Well if it isn't mentioned in the cons ution then it doesn't exist..

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    Actually, I'm starting to think she doesn't know very much about our Founding Fathers when she got asked who her favorite was...



    "All of 'em!"...Glenn Beck even says "bullcrap, who is your favorite?"

    Please run for President, Mrs. Palin! I don't care how much you make talking bull , please do the right thing. Be our George Washington!!!

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    anyone who can not figure out that palin is completely incompetent has some seriously clouded judgement or is just willing to buy into anything. for those who would say obama duped voters, what would they have to say about this charlatan act palin is pulling? she's a boob with boobs.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that white people are just as equal as other colors of people, our Founding Fathers, they owned slaves.
    And a corollary:
    Lest anyone try to convince you that white people are equal to white people, our WASPY forbears discriminated against Irish, Italian, Scandinavian, and Eastern-European folk.

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    She's an idiot and will bring down the republican party. Like someone said here a few weeks ago. After the mid-terms her usefulness to the repubs will be depleted.

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    Lest anyone try to convince you that God should be separated from the state, our Founding Fathers, they were believers.
    And they believed in this 'secular' society these fools keep bashing. Be careful what you ask for.

    Further they were NOT all believers.

    All national ins utions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
    - Thomas Paine

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    He also said, among other things...
    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.

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    Believe. admiralsnackbar's Avatar
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    And they believed in this 'secular' society these fools keep bashing. Be careful what you ask for.

    Further they were NOT all believers.
    I find it creepy in the extreme to see how determined the Christian right's historical revisionism is being pushed by their base, with the clear goal to reduce our nation to some grotesque, fascistic theocracy bent on enabling the rapture and armed with nuclear weapons.

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    Few people realize that Masons, aren't necessarily 'christians' per se and many of the founding fathers were Masons. Masons believe in a universal god and their aim was to unite mankind. This freaks people out now and they're viewed as 'globalists' and 'illuminati' but the founding fathers did not view religion in the contemporary sense. They'd been bashed by it, and were fed up with it. They were far far from what christians are today. Most of 'em despised the Catholic church, as did Abraham Lincoln.

    We are what we are, in part, because we don't let religion run our lives.

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    Further they were NOT all believers.


    - Thomas Paine
    Thomas Paine has been basically phased out as a Founding Father, kind of like what happened to Thomas Jefferson when the Texas SBoE recently reevaluated its history curriculum to limit his part in Founding Fathers.

    Nobody likes Paine because he was the only one that didn't smell like from having his head up his ass the whole day.

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    HAHA...Thomas Paine is often called 'The Father of the American Revolution'.

    That's about as 'Founding Father' as you can get.

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    We are what we are, in part, because we don't let religion run our lives.
    And religion here is what it is, in part, because the state is forbidden from affiliating or otherwise interfering with it.

    The prevalence of godly belief flourishes in the USA as compared with the desiccated state religions of Europe (excepting the RC faith, which was already cosmopolitan at the time of the Reformation, and Anglicanism, which grew with the British Empire.)

    It's as true now as when Toqueville pointed it out about 200 years ago. The pious and the ungodly alike owe a great debt to the "wall of separation."

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    Believe. admiralsnackbar's Avatar
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    And religion here is what it is, in part, because the state is forbidden from affiliating or otherwise interfering with it.

    The prevalence of godly belief flourishes in the USA as compared with the desiccated state religions of Europe (excepting the RC faith, which was already cosmopolitan at the time of the Reformation, and Anglicanism, which grew with the British Empire.)

    It's as true now as when Toqueville pointed it out about 200 years ago. The pious and the ungodly alike owe a great debt to the "wall of separation."
    Excellent point.

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