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    ....the Arizona State House is trying to pass a bill to keep Obama off the 2012 ballot!

    PHOENIX -- The Arizona House on Monday voted for a provision that would require President Barack Obama to show his birth certificate if he hopes to be on the state's ballot when he runs for reelection.

    The House voted 31-22 to add the provision to a separate bill. The measure still faces a formal vote.

    It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit do ents proving they meet the cons utional requirements to be president.

    Phoenix Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said the bill is one of several measures that are making Arizona "the laughing stock of the nation."
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    A whole legislature full of birthers!! Even DarrinS is laughing!

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    Wasn't McCain born in Panama?

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    Great Scott! Those Arizona guys march to the beat of a different time zone.

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    I never thought Florida or Texas were whack.

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    It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the ballot in Arizona to submit do ents proving they meet the cons utional requirements to be president.
    What's wrong with this exactly?

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    What's wrong with this exactly?
    Nothing.

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    What's wrong with this exactly?
    John McCain was born in Panama. It's a territory, but it's not a state in the United States. AZ politicians didn't question where he was born, why?

    This ballot effort can't be backed up by any sort of argument.

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    John McCain was born in Panama. It's a territory, but it's not a state in the United States. AZ politicians didn't question where he was born, why?

    This ballot effort can't be backed up by any sort of argument.
    If he runs in 2012, John McCain would have to submit his supporting do ents.

    So, again, what's the problem?

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    So, again, what's the problem?
    it smacks of racism and desperation on their part.

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    John McCain was born in Panama. It's a territory, but it's not a state in the United States. AZ politicians didn't question where he was born, why?
    They don't question McCain's birthplace because they are already 100% sure of where he was born.

    This ballot effort can't be backed up by any sort of argument.
    Quite the opposite.

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    it smacks of racism and desperation on their part.
    Only if that's what you're looking for.

    You aren't honestly afraid that Obama's credentials are lacking, are you?

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    Only if that's what you're looking for.
    you're right, they're looking for any reason to discredit the first black president.

    You aren't honestly afraid that Obama's credentials are lacking, are you?

    not at all, the issue has been settled long ago.

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    it smacks of racism and desperation on their part.
    I know it's going to be tough, but try to put down the partisan pom-poms for a moment and see if you can come up with a reason why it's a bad thing to expect candidates for elected office to prove that they're eligible to hold that office.

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    you're right, they're looking for any reason to discredit the first black president.
    That's not what I said.




    not all, the issue has been settled long ago.
    So if Obama's credentials are sound, AND all candidates, including white, black, Asian, and Hispanic candidates or any other race or mixture of races, must prove their credentials, how is Arizona "looking to discredit the first black president?"

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    Obama has nothing to worry about. He was born in Hawaii.

    So what's the problem?

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    see if you can come up with a reason why it's a bad thing to expect candidates for elected office to prove that they're eligible to hold that office.
    Exactly. I'm a bit appalled the other 49 states didn't think of this first ..

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    you're right, they're looking for any reason to discredit the first black president.
    Wasn't that Bill Clinton?

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    That's not what I said.
    it's not what you said, but it's what Arizona is attempting to do.



    So if Obama's credentials are sound, AND all candidates, including white, black, Asian, and Hispanic candidates or any other race or mixture of races, must prove their credentials, how is Arizona "looking to discredit the first black president?"
    because they're making the birth certificate an issue at all. This law will not be enforceable even if passed and signed into law. it's just a middle finger to the president on behalf of the birthers in that state who are probably calling their reps saying something "needs to be done about that muslim/foreigner/socialist."

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    it's not what you said, but it's what Arizona is attempting to do.
    Says you and any one else who's looking to be defensive.

    Again, it's only barely indirectly related to Obama, and that's if you're going to be defensive-minded. Obama is the POTUS and that ain't changing until 2013, earliest. There's plenty of far-more-reaching to criticize him over than an extremely exaggerated credentials issue.





    because they're making the birth certificate an issue at all.
    Where is there mention of Obama's birth certificate in the new legislature?

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    Exactly. I'm a bit appalled the other 49 states didn't think of this first ..
    No kidding. I'd have thought that every state would have already been requiring this. I really don't see how anyone can be opposed to this, regardless of party affiliation.

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    Obama has nothing to worry about. He was born in Hawaii.

    So what's the problem?
    why the need to see it again then?

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    why the need to see it again then?
    It would apply to all candidates. What's the problem?

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    It would apply to all candidates. What's the problem?
    But he has already proven it. Why do it again?

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    But he has already proven it. Why do it again?
    I think you're missing the point. This is not a law that applies only to Obama. It applies to all candidates.

    If a candidate wants to run for an office, what's wrong with requiring him to provide do ents supporting his cons utional eligibility for the office? I have no doubt that Obama will be able to quickly and cheaply comply with this law. I fail to see the problem.

    Do you think there would have even been a birther movement had this law been in effect in 2008?

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