Pop "I thought we had a lot of guys that played like dogs" and hill out for game 2

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Tony still isn't 100%. His game is based entirely on speed.

We shouldn't be playing him now.

Nice logic.

No, George Hill is recovering from an injury, so the case was made that he shouldn't be playing in a game where the Spurs are resting Duncan and Ginobili. Tony Parker is coming back from a HAND injury and is trying to get his game speed back. Not really sure why you pretend not to understand these things, but you definitely get to pad your post count with all your double-talk.

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You do recall that the spurs did, in fact, lose to the nets this year? It was, in fact just a few short weeks before the end of the season if I recall.

So obviously if you can lose to the nets you can also lose to the wolves. And a loss to the wolves could have resulted in a nasty 8th seed matchup with the lakers.

Now, if your an avid reader of the forum (which I think you are) you'll probably remember that I was one of the main proponents of the argument that the spurs should avoid the
8th seed at all costs.

Again, I've got my bases covered and my thinking is crystal clear here. The only hypocrisy being spewed here is from your corner.

Nope, yours is quite clear. I'm not surprised you don't get it.

No, George Hill is recovering from an injury, so the case was made that he shouldn't be playing in a game where the Spurs are resting Duncan and Ginobili. Tony Parker is coming back from a HAND injury and is trying to get his game speed back. Not really sure why you pretend not to understand these things, but you definitely get to pad your post count with all your double-talk.

Where was your objection to Hill's playing against the Wolves?

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You weren't mad about the Wolves game.

It's nice of you to point out your own hypocrisy for me.

You already did it for me.

Thanks again, Dr. Coach. Don't forget your Geritol.

For me, the reason it was ok for Hill to play in the Wolves game was because at that time, there was still a chance for the Spurs to drop to the 8th seed and play the Lakers.

Once we clinched at least the 7th seed that night (when Portland beat OKC), the Dallas game became pretty much meaningless (at least according to Pop). So, if you're gonna rest Tim and Manu in a meaningless game, you should have rested Hill as well.

For those who say, well he needed to get his rhythm back, that's why TP was playing that last game, I disagree. Hill only missed a few games, whereas TP missed an entire month. Also, the chances of TP re-injuring his hand were slim to none while Hill's ankle was still at risk for re-injury.

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For me, the reason it was ok for Hill to play in the Wolves game was because at that time, there was still a chance for the Spurs to drop to the 8th seed and play the Lakers.

Once we clinched at least the 7th seed that night (when Portland beat OKC), the Dallas game became pretty much meaningless (at least according to Pop). So, if you're gonna rest Tim and Manu in a meaningless game, you should have rested Hill as well.

For those who say, well he needed to get his rhythm back, that's why TP was playing that last game, I disagree. Hill only missed a few games, whereas TP missed an entire month. Also, the chances of TP re-injuring his hand were slim to none while Hill's ankle was still at risk for re-injury.

We couldn't have beaten the Wolves without Hill?

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For me, the reason it was ok for Hill to play in the Wolves game was because at that time, there was still a chance for the Spurs to drop to the 8th seed and play the Lakers.

Once we clinched at least the 7th seed that night (when Portland beat OKC), the Dallas game became pretty much meaningless (at least according to Pop). So, if you're gonna rest Tim and Manu in a meaningless game, you should have rested Hill as well.

For those who say, well he needed to get his rhythm back, that's why TP was playing that last game, I disagree. Hill only missed a few games, whereas TP missed an entire month. Also, the chances of TP re-injuring his hand were slim to none while Hill's ankle was still at risk for re-injury.

Exactly the argument I've been trying to drill into Gomer Pyle for the past week and a half....

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Exactly the argument I've been trying to drill into Gomer Pyle for the past week and a half....

You fear the Wolves.

Hill's 6 points were crucial to the 22-point win according to you.

Understood.

[TJastal]

We couldn't have beaten the Wolves without Hill?

So this is your newest straw man argument huh?

[TJastal]

You fear the Wolves.

Hill's 6 points were crucial to the 22-point win according to you.

Understood.

Did the spurs just lose to the nets two weeks beforehand? Yes or no. If yes, then why shouldn't the spurs fear ANY team?

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We couldn't have beaten the Wolves without Hill?

For a team that lost to the Nets a couple weeks before that and had just lost at home to a Memphis team (who had lost something like 6 of their last 7 heading into that game) the Friday before, yes, you play him if he the doctors clear him (which they obviously did).

In my mind, Pop's goal towards the end of the season was to avoid the 8th spot at all costs. The fact that he didn't play Manu and Duncan in the finale when there was a slight chance at the 6th seed backs up that theory. However, what boggles my mind is, if you're gonna rest those 2, then you should have rested Hill as well.

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Did the spurs just lose to the nets two weeks beforehand? Yes or no.

Yes.

If yes, then why shouldn't the spurs fear ANY team?

Because they didn't need Hill and that's not why he played.

You were wrong, just accept it.

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For a team that lost to the Nets a couple weeks before that and had just lost at home to a Memphis team (who had lost something like 6 of their last 7 heading into that game) the Friday before, yes, you play him if he the doctors clear him (which they obviously did).

In my mind, Pop's goal towards the end of the season was to avoid the 8th spot at all costs. The fact that he didn't play Manu and Duncan in the finale when there was a slight chance at the 6th seed backs up that theory. However, what boggles my mind is, if you're gonna rest those 2, then you should have rested Hill as well.

Hill played against the Wolves and no one complained.

Armchair doctors and coaches.

[TJastal]

Yes.

Because they didn't need Hill and that's not why he played.

You were wrong, just accept it.

Uh, Gomer.. is that why he played almost the entire 1st quarter and 4 1/2 minutes of the 2nd quarter... for a total of 16 minutes in the 1st half? .. then just 2 1/2 minutes in the 2nd half when the spurs had a commanding lead?

C'mon Gomer you can do better than this.

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Uh, Gomer.. is that why he played almost the entire 1st quarter and 4 1/2 minutes of the 2nd quarter... for a total of 16 minutes in the 1st half? .. then just 2 1/2 minutes in the 2nd half when the spurs had a commanding lead?

C'mon Gomer you can do better than this.

That's all he was going to play regardless.

You've never heard of this being done with a player coming off an injury?

Ever?

Not once in your long years of professional basketball and medical practice?

C'mon, Dr. Coach -- you can do better than this.

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That's all he was going to play regardless.

You've never heard of this being done with a player coming off an injury?

Ever?

Not once in your long years of professional basketball and medical practice?

C'mon, Dr. Coach -- you can do better than this.

Coming off an injury to play almost an entire half ... seems a bit much to me. And no, I've never heard of this "being done" as standard practice. Add in the fact he played the first couple minutes of the 2nd half and it really makes no sense.

Sure looks to me like Pop was using him to ensure a victory.

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Where was your objection to Hill's playing against the Wolves?

It's not my objection, I'm explaining the argument that you keep pretending not to understand while you all over yet another thread. Duncan and Ginobili didn't rest in that game.

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Hill to play in tonight's Game 2

"I think we're probably going to go with him," Popovich said, "unless he falls over in his room or trips over an end table, or something."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...ts_Game_2.html

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in just a few more hours it will be time to "release the hounds"

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Hill to play in tonight's Game 2

"I think we're probably going to go with him," Popovich said, "unless he falls over in his room or trips over an end table, or something."

Wonder if that's referring to Willie Anderson hurting himself falling at home.