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  1. #51
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    Come to think of it, z0sa, you're right. I was suddenly flooded w/ images of Matt getting backed down, hands both perfectly straight up in the air, and the ball finding the basket, shot-after-shot-after-shot.

    [shudder]
    Pretty much, sadly. Bonner doesn't have the ref respect or skill to contest consistently without fouling. He basically is a really huge, fairly fast-moving cone for Dirk to shoot over.

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    Couldn't find the ref info for the 2001 and 2002 playoffs. Here's the Crawford games since then:

    2003:
    Game 3 WCF at home: Spurs 96, Mavs 83. Spurs 26 FTA, Mavs 6 Spurs 43%, Mavs 40%
    Game 1 WCSF at home: Kings 124, Mavs 113. Kings 33 FTA, Mavs 18. Kings 55% FG, Mavs 47%.
    Game 6 WCSF on road: Kings 115, Mavs 109. Kings 32 FTA, Mavs 22. Kings 42% FG, Mavs 49%
    Game 4 WCQF on road: Blazers 98, Mavs 79. Blazers 42 FTA, Mavs 13. Blazers 42%, Mavs 37%

    2005:
    Game 1 WCQF at home: Rockets 98, Mavs 86. Rockets 20 FTA, Mavs 42. Rockets 48%, Mavs 35%
    Game 2 WCQF at home: Rockets 113, Mavs 111. Rockets 27 FTA, Mavs 26. Rockets 55%, Mavs 50%
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Suns 127, Mavs 102. Suns 28 FTA, Mavs 12. Suns 52%, Mavs 45%

    2006:
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Spurs 87, Mavs 85. Spurs 30 FTA, Mavs 28. Spurs 41%, Mavs 42%
    Game 5 WCF at home: Mavs 117, Suns 101. Suns 20 FTA, Mavs 28. Suns 46%, Mavs 47%. Dirk scores 50.
    Game 3 Finals on road: Heat 98, Mavs 96. Heat 34 FTA, Mavs 26. Heat 49%, Mavs 48%
    Game 6 Finals at home: Heat 95, Mavs 92. Heat 37 FTA, Mavs 22. Heat 45%, Mavs 37%

    2007:
    Game 3 WCQF on road: Warriors 109, Mavs 91. Warriors 34 FTA, Mavs 37. Warriors 48%, Mavs 39%

    2008:
    Game 5 WCQF on road: Hornets 99, Mavs 94. Hornets 20 FTA, Mavs 19. Hornets 49%, Mavs 43%

    2009:
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Nuggets 109, Mavs 95. Nuggets 36 FTA, Mavs 13. Nuggets 55%, Mavs 49%

    The bolded games the other team obviously didn't need Crawford's help. That Blazer game in 2003 has a huge FT discrepancy, but the Mavs shot 37% in that game and the Blazers wanted it more to avoid the sweep.

    I had to work during G3 of the Spurs-Mavs in 2003, the game where Dirk got hurt. Quite a huge FT discrepancy, but having not watched this game, I have nothing useful to say about it.

    Not saying the other games were unfairly officiated per se, but the bolded ones we can't scream about. So for what it's worth, the last three times he's reffed us, we can't look at him as a factor.
    Last edited by Findog; 04-23-2010 at 01:12 PM.

  3. #53
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    Yeah DPG, it's "unreal" for a Mavs fan to be upset about an official who the Mavs are winless against unless Dirk goes for 50. How irrational
    Then why does mav fan give spur fan about ing about the refs? At least wait until after the game to complain? At least you won't end up looking ridiculous such as in game one.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Maybe we'll get lucky and Dan Crawford will challenge Dirk to a fight tonight and shut Spur Fan up.

    Bavetta worries me more, that guy is easily the most corrupt official in the NBA.

    If any Mavs fan here has ties to the Mafia, please have your Don throw a pile of money at Bavetta to give the Mavs the game. This is the best way to guarantee victory.

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    Couldn't find the ref info for the 2001 and 2002 playoffs. Here's the Crawford games since then:

    2003:
    Game 3 WCF at home: Spurs 96, Mavs 83. Spurs 26 FTA, Mavs 6 Spurs 43%, Mavs 40%
    Game 1 WCSF at home: Kings 124, Mavs 113. Kings 33 FTA, Mavs 18. Kings 55% FG, Mavs 47%.
    Game 6 WCSF on road: Kings 115, Mavs 109. Kings 32 FTA, Mavs 22. Kings 42% FG, Mavs 49%
    Game 4 WCQF on road: Blazers 98, Mavs 79. Blazers 42 FTA, Mavs 13. Blazers 42%, Mavs 37%

    2005:
    Game 1 WCQF at home: Rockets 98, Mavs 86. Rockets 20 FTA, Mavs 42. Rockets 48%, Mavs 35%
    Game 2 WCQF at home: Rockets 113, Mavs 111. Rockets 27 FTA, Mavs 26. Rockets 55%, Mavs 50%
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Suns 127, Mavs 102. Suns 28 FTA, Mavs 12. Suns 52%, Mavs 45%

    2006:
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Spurs 87, Mavs 85. Spurs 30 FTA, Mavs 28. Spurs 41%, Mavs 42%
    Game 5 WCF at home: Mavs 117, Suns 101. Suns 20 FTA, Mavs 28. Suns 46%, Mavs 47%. Dirk scores 50.
    Game 3 Finals on road: Heat 98, Mavs 96. Heat 34 FTA, Mavs 26. Heat 49%, Mavs 48%
    Game 6 Finals at home: Heat 95, Mavs 92. Heat 37 FTA, Mavs 22. Heat 45%, Mavs 37%

    2007:
    Game 3 WCQF on road: Warriors 109, Mavs 91. Warriors 34 FTA, Mavs 37. Warriors 48%, Mavs 39%

    2008:
    Game 5 WCQF on road: Hornets 99, Mavs 94. Hornets 20 FTA, Mavs 19. Hornets 49%, Mavs 43%

    2009:
    Game 1 WCSF on road: Nuggets 109, Mavs 95. Nuggets 36 FTA, Mavs 13. Nuggets 55%, Mavs 49%
    Last edited by mavsfan1000; 04-23-2010 at 01:18 PM.

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    Mavs better win this, I'd much rather lose to the Mavs than the Spurs.

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    Quoted by MrFindog on dallasbasketball.com
    I am MrFindog on dallasbasketball.com

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    I am MrFindog on dallasbasketball.com
    lol

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    Maybe we'll get lucky and Dan Crawford will challenge Dirk to a fight tonight and shut Spur Fan up.

    Bavetta worries me more, that guy is easily the most corrupt official in the NBA.

    If any Mavs fan here has ties to the Mafia, please have your Don throw a pile of money at Bavetta to give the Mavs the game. This is the best way to guarantee victory.
    You do realize mav fan es just as much, if not more than spur fan? Mav fan has taken it to a new level of preemptive ing now. I could care less if Joey refs a spurs game and he was actually suspended for his actions against the spurs.

    Sometimes it is right to , but not before tip off bc you look like the biggest cry baby. Especially when you complain and are awarded double the fts

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    You do realize mav fan es just as much, if not more than spur fan? Mav fan has taken it to a new level of preemptive ing now. I could care less if Joey refs a spurs game and he was actually suspended for his actions against the spurs.

    Sometimes it is right to , but not before tip off bc you look like the biggest cry baby. Especially when you complain and are awarded double the fts
    Is it so hard to understand that it is possible that a ref can hate a certain team?

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    Is it so hard to understand that it is possible that a ref can hate a certain team?
    Is it so hard to understand that your fan base bitces a ton? Spurs had a ref actually suspended for his actions against the spurs. Has that happened to the mavs?

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    Why can't the refs call the games nobody gives a about

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    I am so annoyed by mavfan right now I can honestly say I am rooting for the mavs to win tonight so they will shut up. Holla black.

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    Mavs better win this, I'd much rather lose to the Mavs than the Spurs.
    You gonna take your old Dad to a game, Duncan? I got my Cleveland Indians sit upon ready to go. Game 5? I'll buy us a nice dinner, you name the joint.

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    I am so annoyed by mavfan right now I can honestly say I am rooting for the mavs to win tonight so they will shut up. Holla black.
    lol internet forum

    lol getting annoyed

    lol my asian wang being longer than you are tall

    lol spurs

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    Especially when you complain and are awarded double the fts

    I think the refs have been fine so far in all series with the exception of the hand check rule not applying to Artest......but can we quit using FT disparity as a gauge for refs (not just DPG, but everyone in general), it's the dumbest logic ever. Ever since 2008 when Lakers fans complained about Boston getting more free throws than LA because somehow Leon Powe attacking the basket wasn't supposed to get more free throws than VladRad and Vujacic bricking 3's, the complaining when one team gets more free throws than the other has gotten ridiculous.

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    redirkulous mavsfan1000's Avatar
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    Is it so hard to understand that your fan base bitces a ton? Spurs had a ref actually suspended for his actions against the spurs. Has that happened to the mavs?
    And what does that prove? That Stern likes the Spurs better than the Mavs. Nothing more.

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    I think the refs have been fine so far in all series with the exception of the hand check rule not applying to Artest......but can we quit using FT disparity as a gauge for refs (not just DPG, but everyone in general), it's the dumbest logic ever. Ever since 2008 when Lakers fans complained about Boston getting more free throws than LA because somehow Leon Powe attacking the basket wasn't supposed to get more free throws than VladRad and Vujacic bricking 3's, the complaining when one team gets more free throws than the other has gotten ridiculous.
    lol dragic

    lol nash

    lol slovenia

    lol cant get minutes

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    I am so annoyed by mavfan right now I can honestly say I am rooting for the mavs to win tonight so they will shut up. Holla black.
    In some twisted way I want to see the mavs lose so I can about Crawford more.

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    lol dragic

    lol nash

    lol slovenia

    lol cant get minutes

    *meow* *meow*

  21. #71
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    So if the Mavs lose again, you gonna go all racist again?
    only if BR comes in with his fake "typical black guy who doesn't respect dirk" shtick

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    Is it so hard to understand that your fan base bitces a ton? Spurs had a ref actually suspended for his actions against the spurs. Has that happened to the mavs?

    There are two ways to interpret that. 1 being that the refs hate SA so bad that they did something that deserved the suspension. There's the other angle that Stern obviously has some kind of respect for the Spurs if he's willing to publicly criticize an official for that call and suspend him. My view is that it's a a stupid egotistical ref who wants to see his face on ESPN so he made a call people would remember.

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    I think the refs have been fine so far in all series with the exception of the hand check rule not applying to Artest......but can we quit using FT disparity as a gauge for refs (not just DPG, but everyone in general), it's the dumbest logic ever. Ever since 2008 when Lakers fans complained about Boston getting more free throws than LA because somehow Leon Powe attacking the basket wasn't supposed to get more free throws than VladRad and Vujacic bricking 3's, the complaining when one team gets more free throws than the other has gotten ridiculous.
    I agree, I was just making a point that when you complain about refs and get a ton more fts that u look foolish. I have been fine w the officiating. I am even fine with complaining about them. But at least wait until there is something to complain about.

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    Pretty obvious Joe had/has some kind of beef with Duncan.

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    only if BR comes in with his fake "typical black guy who doesn't respect dirk" shtick
    Like your fake "I'm a crip who goes to school and uses smilies on the Internet but win fights like I'm Channing Tatum shtick"?

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