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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Hope everything's ok with your dad, Findog.

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    George Hill: 2-Guard NewJerSpur's Avatar
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    But with either marion or butler on the floor, pop can't play manu/parker/hill lineup so long, and Jefferson has to come in.
    Not as long as Marion keeps struggling on both ends of the floor, then it doesn't matter who out there against him (check the 2nd quarter). I'd probably give Caron Shawn's minutes if anything, but neither if proving themselves a consistent threat or gamebreaker. The Mavs put out the lineup the Spurs have struggled with the last 2 years and it started to work, that's why they stuck with it.

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    If Dirk could play center it would make things so much easier.

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    Sorry to hear that FD. I am absolutely shocked that RC benched Caron the entire 2nd half for JJB. You cannot do that to one of your star players. Not only does it create locker room issues and resentment, it crushes their confidence.

    I was really amazed to see it play out that way, and I would be stunned if Caron was not hurt.

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    Sorry to hear that FD. I am absolutely shocked that RC benched Caron the entire 2nd half for JJB. You cannot do that to one of your star players. Not only does it create locker room issues and resentment, it crushes their confidence.

    I was really amazed to see it play out that way, and I would be stunned if Caron was not hurt.
    yes, his 3-PG lineup cranked out some unexpectedly nice results and managed to keep the match close till the crunch minutes in the 4th quarter, when he should have subs uted the gimmicks out and his regulars in, but he choose to screw everything up by continuing this lineup.

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Fin, hope your dad is well...

    Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.

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    Fin, hope your dad is well...

    Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.
    which was well negated by his poor defense and his ball hogging at the offense end.

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    Fin, hope your dad is well...

    Butler was yanked off because the Mavs were still shooting 37%, Caron was still hesitating, and once Barea went in, the shooting percentage went right up.

    Buler's passing up wide open 3s, and i'm sure benching him will really help his confidence

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    George Hill: 2-Guard NewJerSpur's Avatar
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    Caron and J-Ho were good fits for their former teams imo, Howard just couldnt get his head on straight the way Butler has matured and Dallas didn't feel like babysitting him anymore.

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    Buler's passing up wide open 3s, and i'm sure benching him will really help his confidence
    It's been 3 games and he's still hesitating, passing up shots, turning the ball over. And props to Gino for being all over him at the start of the game. At some point Rick has to turn the page and try something else. He tried Roddy Buckets for a bit, them went with JJ...
    Same thing with Marion. He's been a no-show so far. I think he only played 5 mins in the second half.

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    It's been 3 games and he's still hesitating, passing up shots, turning the ball over. And props to Gino for being all over him at the start of the game. At some point Rick has to turn the page and try something else. He tried Roddy Buckets for a bit, them went with JJ...
    Same thing with Marion. He's been a no-show so far. I think he only played 5 mins in the second half.
    That first game Caron was on fire, but for 2 games in a row Carlisle has started the half with him on the bench. Now when Pop comes out of the half break his superscrub stays on the bench. 99% of the time with his same lineup that starts the game starts the half, no matter how bad it was the 1st half.

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    Mav fans need to give the Puerto Rican midget a break seriously...he was actually one of the better Mavs players today, that coupled with other guys playing like vaginas prompted Carlisle to play him heavy minutes. The Spurs were basically in control through most of the first half, they had like a 7-10 lead throughout. With the midget and turtle in the line-up they got it within 3 by halftime and late in the 3rd quarter had an 8 point lead. Theyre the players that put the Mavs in position to be able to win the game to begin with.

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    Just got done watching the game. Not sure what to say, other than Rick Carlisle needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize what the he is gonna do. I don't think playing JJ the whole 2nd half is the answer here. I know he had a good run but you need to know when to go back to you big guys.

    We got game four.

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    Dirk needs some help. Sucks that they guy that has the talent to help him played 14 minutes.

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    at re ed ing spur fans saying Barea played great. He had a spurt of good play in the 2nd/3rd quarters and then got an entire 4th quarter of completely undeserved playing time, along with Terry.

    Barea and Terry were both godawful in the fourth quarter but Carlisle didn't have the ing sense to realize his 3PG lineup had run it's course of usefulness and put Butler back in the game. Barea's ballhogging killed at least 2 crunchtime possessions.
    You truly do prove the stereotype true that Mavfan knows about basketball.

    Barea is the only reason this game was not a 20 point blowout.

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    Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.

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    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion of JJB playing an entire fourth quarter in a playoff game. I'm stunned.
    I believe he played the entire second half. Only player who didnt have a rest IIRC.

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    Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

    Just what we need.

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    Just got done watching the game. Not sure what to say, other than Rick Carlisle needs to pull his head out of his ass and realize what the he is gonna do. I don't think playing JJ the whole 2nd half is the answer here. I know he had a good run but you need to know when to go back to you big guys.

    We got game four.
    stop tainting this board, you s my rancid .

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    Yea i thought Barea actually did quite well. He hit that momentum killing 30 footer at the buzzer to end the half to bring the Mavs within 3, and was huge in the 17-0 run to put the Mavs up 8. Carlisle probably should have bought Butler back in bridging the 3rd and 4th quarters when the Spurs got back in it to give JJB a rest and throw something different out there, but i thought Butler was way to stagnant. He was a ball-stopper tonight.

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    I told you. You can't do that to your best players. Especially a guy like Marion.

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    George Hill: 2-Guard NewJerSpur's Avatar
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    I hope they do play Marion more....and encourage him to look for his offense.

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    Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

    Just what we need.
    It's started.

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    Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.
    He was more of a minus than plus during most of the 4th but it's untrue to call him the same dependent on the 2nd and 3rd quarter. he played encouragingly in those minutes and helped a lot in keeping the Mavs afloat. The mistake was made by Carlisle when he should have got him out yet he didn't.

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    Barea killed the rhythm. I don't care what others say about his numbers. The flow of the game was not good with him out there. We needed a SF out there. Why is it both Marion and Butler play or both have to be benched? So no SF's or 2 SF's.
    Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

    It was all due to Barea.

    If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?

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