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  1. #76
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    Fire RC,play Roddy..Plain and simple..

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    Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

    It was all due to Barea.

    If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?
    Then he made up for it by sucking the entire 4th quarter. Terry should've been benched as well. He tries to be the hero and it pisses me off.

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    The thing is....

    Carlisle went Beaubois before he went Barea. And Beaubois ended up with like two turnovers and two missed shots. He actually helped the spurs build their lead. So Carlisle has two options....Barea or more rookie. And if the Rookie causes him to lose the game he gets ....if Barea does, well he gets , but less .

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    Yup.

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    Then he made up for it by sucking the entire 4th quarter. Terry should've been benched as well. He tries to be the hero and it pisses me off.
    Okay then that is Carlisle, not Barea. That little ing hispanic tiny poor man's steve nash is the only reason this was not a blowout of Epic Spurs/Mavs playoff proportions.


    He got yall back into the game. After that, Carlisle should have adjusted accordingly. But he did his job. Mookie even texted me during the game completely flabbergasted because he can't understand how JJ owns us so ing hardcore.

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    Sitting Butler and Marion is NOT the Mavs answer to beat the Spurs.

    They can't just sit them and hope other people step up. If Butler and Marion continue to suck, they're going to lose the series anyway.

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    He was more of a minus than plus during most of the 4th but it's untrue to call him the same dependent on the 2nd and 3rd quarter. he played encouragingly in those minutes and helped a lot in keeping the Mavs afloat. The mistake was made by Carlisle when he should have got him out yet he didn't.
    With Barea you are playing with fire. He has killed this team many times this year. You don't wait until he kills you. You take advantage of him if he has it going but have a quick trigger when things start going south. Carlisle didn't do that and he got burned.

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    Flow of the game would have been completely irrelevant had Barea not penetrated and hit shots close to the rim, given Spurs defensive rotation fits, and then hooked up Dirk and Terry with wide open threes.

    It was all due to Barea.

    If you are assuming "rhythm" matters in some alternate reality my question is how the do you get those points for that 15 point swing the Mavs pulled, if not for Barea and his penetration?
    the problem is Carlisle seemed to be inebriated watching Barea's vintage plays and got deluded to believe that this midget would be the answer. Sadly he was awefully wrong and his mistake literally cost the game, and will probably also cost his job hopefully.

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    "@matrix31 tough game , can't beat em when it's 8 on 5. NBA refs should all be fired and charged with fixing games"

    "@texas_D yeah I hear u"

    hahahahaha

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    The thing is....

    Carlisle went Beaubois before he went Barea. And Beaubois ended up with like two turnovers and two missed shots. He actually helped the spurs build their lead. So Carlisle has two options....Barea or more rookie. And if the Rookie causes him to lose the game he gets ....if Barea does, well he gets , but less .
    The lead was already built when Beaubois came in the game. The lead stayed the same.

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    With Barea you are playing with fire. He has killed this team many times this year. You don't wait until he kills you. You take advantage of him if he has it going but have a quick trigger when things start going south. Carlisle didn't do that and he got burned.


    no blame or criticism should be sprayed on Barea, or anyone else living obediently under re ed management&coaching.

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    "@matrix31 tough game , can't beat em when it's 8 on 5. NBA refs should all be fired and charged with fixing games"

    "@texas_D yeah I hear u"

    hahahahaha
    He really said that?

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    What's with all the Barea apologists? So he hit a couple shots..he's still a defensive liability. Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.

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    Carlisle keeping in Barea and the others over Marion and Butler made a statement as to the magnitude of this game imo....he went with something he knew would work and milked it as long as he could. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't pull it out and tere may be larger looming implications as a result.

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    Carlisle keeping in Barea and the others over Marion and Butler made a statement as to the magnitude of this game imo....he went with something he knew would work and milked it as long as he could. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't pull it out and tere may be larger looming implications as a result.
    The 3 guard lineup hasn't worked all year. Carlisle I guess doesn't pay attention to this and goes with his precious rotation old and undersized players due to being out of position. With Barea, Terry, and Kidd you get not only a small lineup but no speed advantage that small lineups need to succeed.

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    Someone tweeted "y even pick up @matrix31 or C butler if ur not gonna play em down tha strech? smh" to Marion and he responded with "yeah you're right"

    Just what we need.
    Are you serious? Marion is an immature, insecure . You guys better hope he doesn't have a meltdown.

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    Okay then that is Carlisle, not Barea. That little ing hispanic tiny poor man's steve nash is the only reason this was not a blowout of Epic Spurs/Mavs playoff proportions.


    He got yall back into the game. After that, Carlisle should have adjusted accordingly. But he did his job. Mookie even texted me during the game completely flabbergasted because he can't understand how JJ owns us so ing hardcore.
    says spurstalk's resident expert at speaking on things he knows nothing about

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    He really said that?
    A fan said the first comment about the refs and marion agreed said I hear that


    pretty funny


    twitter will be the end of sports

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    The 3 guard lineup hasn't worked all year. Carlisle I guess doesn't pay attention to this and goes with his precious rotation old and undersized players due to being out of position. With Barea, Terry, and Kidd you get not only a small lineup but no speed advantage that small lineups need to succeed.
    I'm not simply referring to the 3 PG lineup, I'm referring to a lineup that specifically gives the Spurs problems though I will say that the smaller lineups played better than the sizeable ones for Dallas. Damp looks bad, Haywood was on skates and isn't blocking any shots, Marion is oblivious to the basketball game going on on the court and content with his paycheck, and Butler has taken some terrible shots that actually have knocked the Mavs out of rhythm outside of Game 1......maybe some of those things change, but right now that's where things stand.

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    says spurstalk's resident expert at speaking on things he knows nothing about
    I'm pretty sure as far as Spurfan spurstalkers go I know the mavs pretty ing well.

    Saying that playing Barea was a mistake is fundamentally stupid. Because that assumes your paper tiger team gets back into this game by some other means. And that wasn't happening without him causing Spurs rotations fits. We were putting you fools on lock until he broke out.

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    I'm not simply referring to the 3 PG lineup, I'm referring to a lineup that specifically gives the Spurs problems though I will say that the smaller lineups played better than the sizeable ones for Dallas. Damp looks bad, Haywood was on skates and isn't blocking any shots, Marion is oblivious to the basketball game going on on the court and content with his paycheck, and Butler has taken some terrible shots that actually have knocked the Mavs out of rhythm outside of Game 1......maybe some of those things change, but right now that's where things stand.
    The game was a 3 point game at half time. We did go on a run but our biggest run against us also came with that lineup. So you could say that lineup can work really well but also fall apart which it eventually did. Hill and Manu are the difference from this year and last year. Jefferson surprisingly has helped as well.

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    The game was a 3 point game at half time. We did go on a run but our biggest run against us also came with that lineup. So you could say that lineup can work really well but also fall apart which it eventually did. Hill and Manu are the difference from this year and last year. Jefferson surprisingly has helped as well.
    Which is the root of your problem right now. It is great to see George's development this year and Manu back healthy.....brings a different dimension to the team we didn't have last year at this time.

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    You truly do prove the stereotype true that Mavfan knows about basketball.

    Barea is the only reason this game was not a 20 point blowout.
    Agreed. Barea was hitting shot after shot and penetrating at will.

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    What's with all the Barea apologists? So he hit a couple shots..he's still a defensive liability. Not his fault, but 5'7 players with short limbs are a liability in this league. A 3 pg lineup isn't going to win us any games.
    This post just blows my mind.

    He gave the Mavs 2 buckets when we were on the verge of running away in the 2nd quarter.....then makes an incredibly lucky/clutch long range 3 pointer to close the half and make it only a 3 point game, and we were physically dominating the Mavs at that point.

    To be only up 3 while dominating had to be demoralizing for SA.

    Then he comes back in the 3rd and scores with at-will penetration.

    Then when we finally adjust our rotations to account for him he hooks up two wide open three pointers for other maverick players.

    By this time the mavs already recaptured the lead and have the momentum they built upon when shortly thereafter Manu got his nose broken.


    Without JJ dominating the Spurs defense, you guys do jack and we are laughing our asses off.


    It's not his fault Carlisle played him the entire 4th quarter and he failed, just like it was not Roger Mason's fault last year against the Mavs when Pop expected him to be a point guard.

    You put him in a position to fail and if he fails in that position its not his fault.

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