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    Maybe if he didn't suck so bad at playing basketball he wouldn't get whistled for fouling. I don't just a thinking here.

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    Which ed up call? If you are talking about Bonner's charge, he was indeed outside the restricted area, at least that is what I saw and what the commentators said in the replay.
    Being outside of the restricted area doesn't automatically make it a charge. You have to be set, which Bonner was not. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure he had a foot on the line, although it's moot, since he was moving.

    Don't get me wrong, refs up all the time with calls like that. I was just laughing because Bavetta made this over-exaggerated motion calling it, and the reaction from the entire Mavs team was priceless.

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    i really wouldn't care if the refs did do us a favor. i just want the spurs to win this series, fair or unfair.
    I give you props for admitting that.


    There were some fouls that should have been called on the Spurs, but Carlisle would have still been a re regardless so chances are Mavs would have still lost. 3 guard lineups are meant for the All-Star game, not the playoffs.

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    So manu get his nose broke and also got call for the foul, so didn't it went Dirk's way?

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    lmao at all the Spur fans saying "cry more"

    Look at your fellow fans reaction to game one if you want to see more tears.

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    It's amazing that we only held a 4 FT advantage before the intentional fouls began when we had -- what, a 55-30 lead on points in the paint?

    The Mavs literally jacked stupid jumpshots all game that miraculously kept going in, and they want foul calls too?

    How about Manu fouling Dirk with his nose? How about magically Damp not fouling out even though he didn't change his game to be less physical to reflect how they were making calls?

    Tim Duncan picking up "only" 2 fouls in 40+ minutes of action isn't an anomaly. It's how one of the greatest defenders in history and one of the smartest players ever to walk on an NBA court plays defense.

    lmao at all the Spur fans saying "cry more"

    Look at your fellow fans reaction to game one if you want to see more tears.
    If your players are crying this much about a 4 FT disparity, I'd hate to see what would happen if they got the treatment the Spurs got in game one, which was in the neighborhood of 15 free throws handed to the Mavs.

    And there's a huge difference between fans and players complaining about officials.

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    Marion should be fined too for his twitter comments, but this morning I woke up and he had deleted all of them...

    He actually wrote that they were playing 8 on 5 and that ll NBA officials should be fired for fixing games.
    no, some guy tweeted him that "it was 8-5" all Marion said was "I hear you"

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    Being outside of the restricted area doesn't automatically make it a charge. You have to be set, which Bonner was not. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure he had a foot on the line, although it's moot, since he was moving.

    Don't get me wrong, refs up all the time with calls like that. I was just laughing because Bavetta made this over-exaggerated motion calling it, and the reaction from the entire Mavs team was priceless.
    Umm I saw Dirks knee in Bonners stomach.
    But i don't know I had bad quality

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    Being outside of the restricted area doesn't automatically make it a charge. You have to be set, which Bonner was not.
    Bonner's right foot slid more only to brace himself for the impact. He got there much earlier than Dirk and Dirk charged right through him - even if he was in the restricted area they can call charges too.

    Furthermore, I'm pretty sure he had a foot on the line, although it's moot, since he was moving.
    No, he was a good 6 inches past the charge circle, and his actually position was set but he moved his right foot at the end to brace for the chest to chest impact.



    Don't get me wrong, refs up all the time with calls like that.
    True, but they called it 100% right this time around.

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    lmao at all the Spur fans saying "cry more"

    Look at your fellow fans reaction to game one if you want to see more tears.
    don't get off topic now, this is clearly about the players not the fans.

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    Look, it's pretty obvious. Mavs got the better end of the stick Game 1, hands down. And please stop bringing up "hack a damp" as a way to suggest that the entire free throw disparity can be accounted for just from that.

    Game 2 was standard blowout, the better team that day certainly won (Spurs).

    Game 3, I'm not gonna lie - refs favored the spurs for this game, and when the game was as close as it was, this sort of thing matters.

    As far as ref favoritism goes, it's 1-1 mavs-spurs at the moment, thanks in large part due to dan crawford.

    But now, for game 4, we've got the "other" crawford coming in, and the Mavericks will have their chance for being helped by the refs. Joe crawford is, and always has been, bad news for the spurs.

    So in truth, I don't think spurs or mavs fans are in any position to and moan about officiating, it's even so far with all indication that dallas will be getting the next referee boost in game 4.

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    dallas does not matchup well against dan crawford because he let players play phisical

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    I hear you is a confirmation of that belief. Same thing...

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    That being said I'd rather they force Marion to play. He's pretty much the spurs 7th man.

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    If your players are crying this much about a 4 FT disparity, I'd hate to see what would happen if they got the treatment the Spurs got in game one, which was in the neighborhood of 15 free throws handed to the Mavs.
    FT disparity doesn't tell the whole story. For one, the Mavs were called for 9 more fouls than the Spurs.

    P.S.- I don't think the Refs lost this game for us. That was Prick Carlisle.

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    I lol'ed when Bavetta made that ed up call...
    even Sean (or Bill? - I keep the volume really low) said Nowitzki had a legit complaint on that one

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    lmao at all the Spur fans saying "cry more"

    Look at your fellow fans reaction to game one if you want to see more tears.
    Mav fan would be swinging from the shower rod if they ever got a -20 FTA game.

    Mavs still +7 on FTAs for the series. THAT'S how bad game 1 was.

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    Some of you have a serious obsession with free throw disparities. A team not shooting the most free throws in a game doesn't automatically mean they got screwed over by the refs.

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    I just don't think Dan Crawford should ever ref a playoff game with the Mavs. Every time he does there is questionable officiating against the Mavs. We are 1-17 with him reffing.

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    Some of you have a serious obsession with free throw disparities. A team not shooting the most free throws in a game doesn't automatically mean they got screwed over by the refs.
    TWENTY? In a ing 6 point game? For a team that lives and dies by the jumper? You're ing joking, right?

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    I just don't think Dan Crawford should ever ref a playoff game with the Mavs. Every time he does there is questionable officiating against the Mavs. We are 1-17 with him reffing.
    Yeah but it will be balanced by the fact that Joey crawford is officiating game 4.

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    Obviously that's not to say the Mavs definitely win game 4.

    Biased officiating only wins teams games when both teams are playing at a very close level. If Spurs step it up and curb stomp the mavericks game 4, then no amount of bias will help you guys, obviously.

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    Yeah but it will be balanced by the fact that Joey crawford is officiating game 4.
    Joey flying to SA overnight? People keep talking like it's a given...he's in fine form in Charlotte right now, so he might be too tired to ref tomorrow.

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    And finally, I agree that FT disparity is an awful way to determine ref bias. You have to...go through the game call by call and determine which ones could "go either way" and went one way, or which calls were clearly wrong (and in who's favor)

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