Dampier Pissed About Game 3 Officiating

[spursfan1000]

Well I don't remember Spurs complaining when Mavs where getting every single call in game 1, Spurs are smart knowing talking bad about refs does not help.

[Crookshanks]

I rarely agree with David Stern, but I hope he does make good on his threat because this ing and complaining about the refs has gotten totally out of hand. Whenever a team loses, it's NEVER the teams' fault - it's always the refs screwing them over.

Last night - the Spurs didn't make a single 3 pointer, and they only attempted 7. They were dominating in the paint - so it only follows that they should get fouled more. By no means was last night's game a parade to the free throw line for either team.

And the block/charge call is probably the most subjective in the entire game. It happens so quickly - do you want the refs to stop the game and demand to see the replay every time so they can always get it right?

If one team is much more aggressive, and driving to the rim on almost every play, then they're probably going to get more freethrows. You can't expect the refs to call phantom fouls just to make the numbers more even. But Dallas is known as a jumpshooting team - and the Spurs are known as a disciplined team with a coach who drills into their heads to "never foul a jumpshooter". That's why the fans were so upset when Dallas got so many more foul calls in Game 1.

Bottom line - sometimes games are called really crappy and clearly in favor of one team over the other - but last night was NOT one of those games!

[EmptyMan]

Damp SHOULD be pissed. The refs absolutely raped him disproportionately to everyone else on that court.

This is truth. Non-homer Spurs fan who watched this game knows this.

[spursfan1000]

I rarely agree with David Stern, but I hope he does make good on his threat because this ing and complaining about the refs has gotten totally out of hand. Whenever a team loses, it's NEVER the teams' fault - it's always the refs screwing them over.

Last night - the Spurs didn't make a single 3 pointer, and they only attempted 7. They were dominating in the paint - so it only follows that they should get fouled more. By no means was last night's game a parade to the free throw line for either team.

And the block/charge call is probably the most subjective in the entire game. It happens so quickly - do you want the refs to stop the game and demand to see the replay every time so they can always get it right?

If one team is much more aggressive, and driving to the rim on almost every play, then they're probably going to get more freethrows. You can't expect the refs to call phantom fouls just to make the numbers more even. But Dallas is known as a jumpshooting team - and the Spurs are known as a disciplined team with a coach who drills into their heads to "never foul a jumpshooter". That's why the fans were so upset when Dallas got so many more foul calls in Game 1.

Bottom line - sometimes games are called really crappy and clearly in favor of one team over the other - but last night was NOT one of those games!

What was Stern threat?

[NZ Spurs]

Dirk is the only Mav who drives the ball and its ing awkward when he does. On that offensive foul call he lead with both knees into Bonner's chest. How the do you even get into that position?

[Crookshanks]

What was Stern threat?

To stop with the fines and start suspending Coaches and players for complaining about the refs.

[exstatic]

What was Stern threat?

That referee critcisms will no longer just be a fine for coaches and players, but suspensions will come into play.

[Bartleby]

Damp SHOULD be pissed. The refs absolutely raped him disproportionately to everyone else on that court.

This is truth. Non-homer Spurs fan who watched this game knows this.

Exactly! After all, this is "the second-best center in the West" we're talking about.

[exstatic]

Dirk is the only Mav who drives the ball and its ing awkward when he does. On that offensive foul call he lead with both knees into Bonner's chest. How the do you even get into that position?

It's called the "fetal position", and if anyone know how to get into it, Dirk does.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Damp SHOULD be pissed. The refs absolutely raped him disproportionately to everyone else on that court.

This is truth. Non-homer Spurs fan who watched this game knows this.

Please...

If the refs called Damp for a foul every time he fouled Duncan, he'd be averaging about 5 minutes per game before fouling out.

[VBM]

Please...

If the refs called Damp for a foul every time he fouled Duncan, he'd be averaging about 5 minutes per game before fouling out.

[The Truth #6]

It could have gone either way, which is why there's not a lot of sense in arguing those kinds of calls. I'd prefer they just make it a block 90 percent of the time to encourage people to go for the shot block instead. That said, there are a dozen cases in every loss where the Mavericks and their fanbase seem to think they're owed a call and it suddenly becomes the reason they lost. I guess they'd go 98-0 right to a championship every year if it weren't for those damned officials.

He came in with his knees. I thought that might be the reason.

[ambchang]

The officiating really sucked in Game 3, I am serious. Dirk didn't even shoot as many FTs as the whole Spurs team! I mean, that should happen every single game, because the Spurs are a bunch of jump shooting pretty boys, and Dirk drives to the lane like a young Michael Jordan.

[dbreiden83080]

[Tp9gospursgo]

Dampier pretty much blamed the referees for their loss. I thought Stern was gonna be "stern"???

[EricB]

I'd say HEAVY fine. No suspension.

[Danny.Zhu]

I recall Dampier got fined last year for making comments about Parker...

And we lost that serie...

[Whisky Dog]

He's not going to suspend him. He should after making those threats, but he'll just fine him maybe the max under the cba.


Spurs - 2010 NBA Champions

[ace3g]

Dampier under review: Dallas center Erick Dampier is under review for comments that could be construed as critical of game officials, a league spokesman said.

Dampier's comments came after the Mavs' loss Friday in Game 3, less than 24 hours after NBA commissioner David Stern pledged to start suspending players and coaches who criticized referees.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...wFullArticle=y

[duncan228]

Dampier waits: The Mavericks were fully expecting the NBA to fine center Erick Dampier for his comments about officiating after Game 3.

He said the Mavericks were under a "magnifying glass" when they were playing defense and that the same wasn't the case for the Spurs' defense.

On Saturday, Dampier clarified his comments and said the Mavericks have to rise above officiating.

"I wasn't going at the refs," he said. "It's just part of being a basketball player. You know the refs aren't going to make every call.

"It's on us, absolutely. Sometimes they don't see the call. Sometimes it's a bad call. We can't let it get to us. We just got to get back on defense and play the kind of basketball we're used to playing."

Most of the fines levied this season for critical comments about officials have been in the $25,000-$35,000 range.

Since he doesn't have a history of talking about referees, it seems unlikely Dampier would be the first "example" to be made under commissioner David Stern's new, tougher stance on commentary about officiating. He said Thursday that he would not hesitate to suspend coaches or players for future infractions.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...e.3c26503.html

[GSH]

Some of you have a serious obsession with free throw disparities. A team not shooting the most free throws in a game doesn't automatically mean they got screwed over by the refs.

No, it doesn't. And that's why it was so hard pinning down that prick Tim Donoghy. I have a little bit of a hard time with the Thunder being +22 and +20 at the line over the last two games, and Kobe not going to the line once in Game 3. It's just hard to picture a game where nobody fouls Kobe.

I honestly don't think that there is any kind of league conspiracy, or that there are refs fixing games. But I do think that there are refs that tend to cave more to home court pressure, and some that favor one style of play over another. And both of those things, if the exist, would make the calls uneven. (Note: I believe Stu Jackson used to "guide" the officiating crews, and I stand by that. But he's been moved aside, and doesn't have much opportunity anymore.)

There were some bad calls against the Mavs. The second foul on Dirk was absolute bull . Blair got by with one pushoff, in particular, that no NBA ref should ever miss. But the calls and no-calls were pretty consistent on both ends, and the refs mostly let both teams play. If the Spurs had not answered the Mavs 4th quarter surge, and had lost the game, I wouldn't have complained one bit about the officiating.

One thing you guys have left out about Game 1 is that midway through the third quarter, the FT's were 20-3 in favor of the Mavs, even though the Spurs were owning the paint. The Spurs were forced to start playing tenative defense... and that changed the game. If you watch Game 3, the Mavs didn't alter a damned thing. And Dampier, in particular, was still putting wood on guys after he had 5 fouls. The refs didn't force the outcome of that game.

Edit: And I hope they don't suspend Dampier for the comments. Playoff games should be decided by the players, and that means having the best ones on the floor. He was stupid, but that shouldn't keep him off the court.

[Thompson]

When asked if he was worried about a possible suspension being handed down by commissioner Stern, Dampier responded "That little Zacchaeus troll wouldn't dare."

[EricB]

To which Stern replied with "Don't push me Erika"

[TJastal]

Some of you have a serious obsession with free throw disparities. A team not shooting the most free throws in a game doesn't automatically mean they got screwed over by the refs.

+100

Always gives me a laugh when people bring up the "disparity" as the holy grail argument for whether the refs were biased or not.

[MateoNeygro]

Meh. Sure you guys got some questionable calls, but the game was in San Antonio. Nothing out of the ordinary.

It's good to see a Mavs fan that gets it. I must say Eric Dampier is one of my least favorite players in the entire league, he talks so much but is one of the least productive players on his team. The guy is a joke to even get media attention and go off like that especially after what Stern said, he really could have ed his team over.