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    See 2001 Playoffs and Derek Anderson. You would have found me on this site saying the exact same thing. Unfortunate we lost him, but that's playoff basketball.
    this is not playoff basketball at all. Dejuan supposed flagrant foul is a playoff hard foul so was RJs this was just malicious if he had not wrapped his arm and just let go Ginobili would have suffered a concussion.

    stop trolling you have no point. but i agree horse collar tackle is gay just another way for the players union to get another foul named after a dallas cowboys

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    did pop or any of the players leave the ben ch. Thee used to be a rule if you leave the bench you are banned from the next game.

    How many spurs should be suspended for the next game because of this play?
    The coaches did a good job keeping everyone on the bench. But then again, Spurs players are more intelligent and disciplined. Pop, however, looked like he was gonna personally strangle Najara.

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    I don't care when another team intentionally injures one of our best players. Why? Oh, it's playoff basketball!
    Intentional? I don't think Najera attempted to intentionally injure Manu, and maybe that is where we have a difference of opinion. I believe he was sent into send a message, yes. I believe Najera wanted to foul him hard, yes. I don't think Najera intended to injure Manu. If he was, he could have picked a much more effective method.

    Intent is a serious thing. I believe Najera wanted to inflict some pain on Manu, but not injure him. I'm okay with wanting to inflict pain.

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    I was holding my breadth went Manu laid down for a few minutes....actually, my heart stopped. Not sure if Najera will be back for Game 5.

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    .. najera just showrd what the dallas mavericks are made of .. just dirty piece of ..

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    What am I wrong about? Thinking the sport is over-pussified? If any Spur had committed the same foul, you'd be calling Mavs fans pussies for crying the way you all are. <Insert "no we wouldn't" rebuttal that you know deep down isn't true here>.

    Like I said, the foul warranted the ejection. But to act like these fouls are a travesty of man-kind and should be criminalized is just silly. I can't really be "wrong" about liking physical basketball that includes some hard fouls, since it's my opinion. You are free to disagree.
    I woulda thought that was incredibly outa character of our team to do. Horry's hipcheck was not that dirty, it was a dirty play but it wasnt dangerous.

    I did LOVE Jefferson and Blair's fouls. Both went for the ball (but still got called for flagrants), and Jefferson...man we haven't fouled Dirk hard like that in our last two playoff series with Dirk.

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    and then the er tries to smack a camera out of a fans hand......

    leave it to a Mav.....

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    I do want to clarify one thing as a former resident of Dallas county. Mavs fans are bags and will be simultaneously looking for a) another Mav to commit a similar foul while b) acting like a Spur just killed their mother every time one breathes on a Mav.

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    One huge thing yall haven't mentioned is that when najers got ejected and was leaving the game he was givving mav fans hig fives and smiling

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    See 2001 Playoffs and Derek Anderson. You would have found me on this site saying the exact same thing. Unfortunate we lost him, but that's playoff basketball.
    You've made two of the dumest ing comments of the season - in one easy to read thread.

    Even Charles Barkley, who is fond of talking about playoff fouls, said that foul was ugly. Never mind Derek Anderson, or anyone else. I'd like to see your dumb ass out on a hardwood floor take that kind of shot, and see if you think it is flagrant. It's easy to talk about playoff basketball when it's not your poo-covered nose that's broken.

    Why do you think the NFL outlawed the horse collar, Einstein? Because it's that dangerous. Even Najera is smart enough to know that. To bad you aren't.

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    Listening to Dallas radio now, shock of shocks, the radio host and callers though what Najera did was "fantastic and long overdue"

    He's pretty much being hailed as a hero.

    Its absolutely sickening....

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    Also, playoff basketball is hard and tough yes.

    But grabbing a guy by his neck and throwing him to the floor is dirty and cheap.

    Not playoff basketball.

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    You've made two of the dumest ing comments of the season - in one easy to read thread.

    Even Charles Barkley, who is fond of talking about playoff fouls, said that foul was ugly. Never mind Derek Anderson, or anyone else. I'd like to see your dumb ass out on a hardwood floor take that kind of shot, and see if you think it is flagrant. It's easy to talk about playoff basketball when it's not your poo-covered nose that's broken.
    What exactly is your point here? That it's worse because Manu has a broken nose? Or that because other basketball players think it was ugly then it's worth the overreaction?

    I've already stated it was a flagrant foul warranting ejection. My contention is with the fact that this move, which in any other sport would be a similar foul but not that big of a deal, is worthy of outrage in basketball. Hence my "pussification" statement.

    Manu got up, sunk his FTs, and finished the game like a champ. I wonder what his opinion of the foul is. My guess is "hard foul, move on."

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    So... what you're saying is that since Manu wasn't hurt severally that the foul was okay? Am I hearing this right?

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    Listening to Dallas radio now, shock of shocks, the radio host and callers though what Najera did was "fantastic and long overdue"

    He's pretty much being hailed as a hero.

    Its absolutely sickening....
    That's typical mav's homerism.. that's why they will probably never win anything. They can't do self-critism. They can't grow.

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    So... what you're saying is that since Manu wasn't hurt severally that the foul was okay? Am I hearing this right?
    I'm saying that I don't believe there was intent to injure him. A player can get injured on any foul, that doesn't inherently make those fouls criminal. Had Manu got injured it definitely would have sucked, but I still would not have believed Najera intended to injure him.

    I also believe the risk of injury on that play is being severly overstated in this forum.

    RJ's hard chop to Dirk's face could have broken his nose, yet the SBC Center cheered when he went to the floor. I'm not saying the fouls were equal, but that is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.

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    That was a dangerous foul. 6 inches higher, Najera could have had wrapped his hands at Manu's nasal fracture. Imagine the extent of injury if that was the case.

    Najera deserves to be ejected and suspended.

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    Najera was in there for one reason and one reason only.

    To hurt or flagrant foul someone.

    Period. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

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    RJ came straight down on Dirk's arms to try and prevent the shot attempt, Najera was trying to make sure Manu wasn't left standing.

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    This foul reminds me of the 2005 series against Seattle. When the Sonics backs were to the wall, remember that clothesline of Manu? I forget who the er was that did it. Its another sign that the Mavs are done.

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    This foul reminds me of the 2005 series against Seattle. When the Sonics backs were to the wall, remember that clothesline of Manu? I forget who the er was that did it. Its another sign that the Mavs are done.
    There were a few... I think the hardest one in that series was courtesy of Danny Fortson.

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    Good to see the Spurs in control after Najera had thrown Manu down.

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    There were a few... I think the hardest one in that series was courtesy of Danny Fortson.
    Right, that's who it was.

    Carlisle is toast. He doesn't have a clue how to get his guys to stop our guys from getting in the paint.

    What a difference a year makes.

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    What annoys me more is that it seems like Carlisle sent him in to send a message..that's definitely what it looks like..it was the first thing and only thing he did for the entire game..bush league..
    I think this is exactly what was done. Cuban walked to the back right after he went through the tunnel and was grinning at the fans. Cuban and Najera.

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    I'm saying that I don't believe there was intent to injure him. A player can get injured on any foul, that doesn't inherently make those fouls criminal. Had Manu got injured it definitely would have sucked, but I still would not have believed Najera intended to injure him.

    I also believe the risk of injury on that play is being severly overstated in this forum.

    RJ's hard chop to Dirk's face could have broken his nose, yet the SBC Center cheered when he went to the floor. I'm not saying the fouls were equal, but that is the hypocrisy I'm talking about.
    I actually heard that and was surprised by it.. I get your point, but it's the AT&T center. :P

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