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    PHOENIX -- Gov. Jan Brewer ignored criticism from President Barack Obama on Friday and signed into law a bill supporters said would take handcuffs off police in dealing with illegal immigration in Arizona, the nation's busiest gateway for human and drug smuggling from Mexico.
    Earlier Friday, Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level - or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others."
    "That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.


    The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants; allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws; and makes it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.

    The law will take effect in late July or early August, and Brewer ordered the state's law enforcement licensing agency to develop a training course on how to implement it without violating civil rights.

    Anti-immigrant anger has swelled in the past month, after rancher Rob Krentz was found dead on his land north of Douglas, near the Mexico border. Authorities believe he was fatally shot by an illegal immigrant possibly connected to a drug smuggling cartel.


    Pearce said the legislation would remove "political handcuffs" from police and help drive illegal immigrants from the state.
    "Illegal is illegal," said Pearce, a driving force on the issue in Arizona. "We'll have less crime. We'll have lower taxes. We'll have safer neighborhoods. We'll have shorter lines in the emergency rooms. We'll have smaller classrooms."

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    What does an illegal immigrant look like?

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants
    ...blue eyes and blond hair obviously, duh!

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    What does an illegal immigrant look like?
    Meskin, stupid!

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    so, States are tired of the Fed gov't doing Absolutely Nothing about the illegal immigration problem since forever, and they never will.

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    Jails and court dockets are still pretty full. Can they stand the extra volume?

    Can small municipalities really bear the expense? Would you be willing to pay higher taxes for your city to start dealing with it?

    Are police trained to deal with immigrants/immigration issues?

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    Given well-known demographic trends in the USA, isn't it politically tone-deaf for the GOP to hitch its wagon to the star of 21st century Know-Nothings?

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    lol @ Obama not willing to do on immigration this year for political reasons

    lol @ states getting fed up

    lol @ Arizona taking the law into their own hands

    lol @ the biggest march in this country in the past few years being a bunch of pissed off non-americans and non-american apologists

    lol @ teabaggabaggers being racists for not giving a about non-americans

    lol @ citizens of the world

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    "Illegal is illegal," said Pearce, a driving force on the issue in Arizona. "We'll have less crime. We'll have lower taxes. We'll have safer neighborhoods. We'll have shorter lines in the emergency rooms. We'll have smaller classrooms."
    Russel Pearce is a ing idiot, BUT Arizona has a right to do what it feels is right. This law won't help as much as it will annoy people because it was actually passed. I can't envision a scenario where anyone other than Mexican-looking people are asked for "their papers."

    Why not just stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and shore up our borders and port security? If we don't want illegals, we need to get serious about it instead of entertaining bull like this. By the time the bad guys kill someone or the immigrants over fill our hospital rooms it's too late.

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    What would the AZ economy look like without years, decades of all that cheap, abused, underpaid, undeclared cash labor?

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    lol @ Obama not willing to do on immigration this year for political reasons
    What did Republicans do about immigration when they were in full control of the government?

    Be specific.

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    Repugs had 6 years to "fix" immigration, and all they did was start bull wars and cut taxes on the super-wealthy.

    Cheap immigrant labor, often underpaid and unpaid and undeclared, is boon for (Repug) corporations.

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    Repugs had 6 years to "fix" immigration, and all they did was start bull wars and cut taxes on the super-wealthy.
    bush's fix is barry's fix. WTF? Are all the tax payers super-wealthy?

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    bush's fix is barry's fix.
    I believe they are working on a bill now. Which bill did Bush pass?

    WTF? Are all the tax payers super-wealthy?
    Were your taxes lower or higher this year?

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    ...blue eyes and blond hair obviously, duh!
    Yes, there are several Ukranians where I live who might be illegals.

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    Yes, there are several Ukranians where I live who might be illegals.
    Quick! Call the hounds! AUTHORITIES!!!

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    "bush's fix is barry's fix. "

    dubya fixed .

    "all the tax payers super-wealthy?"

    the super wealthy got the super tax cuts, the rest got pro forma window-dressing crumbs.

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    Wasn't Obama one of the senators who killed Bush's effort to pass immigration reform? Yeah, I think it was.

    It's a shame that Obama didn't allow those more capable than him to get something done and now can't do anything himself.

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    Repugs are pig-squealing that the Dems are opportunistically rushing to put immigration reform ahead of climate reform, to give the Dems a leg up with Latinos in November.

    But it was the nut-job AZ Repugs who forced immigration into the spotlight in the past few days, not the Dems.

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    Wasn't Obama one of the senators who killed Bush's effort to pass immigration reform? Yeah, I think it was.

    It's a shame that Obama didn't allow those more capable than him to get something done and now can't do anything himself.
    What makes you say he can't do anything?

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    a law making it illegal to be illegal? Is that a double negative?

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    Wasn't Obama one of the senators who killed Bush's effort to pass immigration reform? Yeah, I think it was.

    It's a shame that Obama didn't allow those more capable than him to get something done and now can't do anything himself.
    No, he co-authored an amendment before voting for the 2006 CIRA.

    Thank you, come again.

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    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...andalized.html


    I personally have mixed feelings about this law, on one hand the word illegal means you're committing a crime punishable by law, on the other hand the thought of the government racially profiling in any way scares the out of me.

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    mother ers. I love Arizona Ice Tea and now I'm gonna have to boycott that . Anybody know other non-arizona options?

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    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...andalized.html


    I personally have mixed feelings about this law, on one hand the word illegal means you're committing a crime punishable by law, on the other hand the thought of the government racially profiling in any way scares the out of me.
    that's okay cause you're white

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