Guys you'll probably see for the last time in Mavs Jersey

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stop the "Dallas will defend their last trench and win game 5" craps... This team is already done, those feeble s won't do anything encouraging in game 5 like a true fighter is expected to do. Instead of loading the last bullet for a final shot, I guarantee you re s that they will choose to melt the down in game 5 like pussies for an early vacation.

so after the Mavs season done, who do you want to remain in Dallas and whom you would like to see out?

Dampier must be gone, to begin with. I like his service as a blue collar but his salary pretty much negates it, however, his 13m contract will be a wonderful bait to use when the transfer window opens. No possibility of Dwayne Wade coming, or Joe Johnson or anyone of this caliber, but a 13m/yr worth player shouldn't be too bad at the very least. Iggy? Monta Ellis? all possible names that may be registered at Dallas. Hopefully Donnie will get smart again and make a good signing, for the last championship push, of course.

I'm not sure who else will be gone. Barea? yes, I ing hate this midget, but the possibility is still out there he remains in dallas because of Carlisle's fetish for him.

Marion? Can't expect him to do much in offense, but his performances in defense are pretty competent for the lowest evaluation.

JET should be the first to move out, but is there any GM re ed enough to adopt him, without exfoliating any equal/worse rubbish to Dallas in return? Negative

Butler has been solid with Mavs, not so good as expected but not too disappointing either. I would only trade him if the exchange looks clearly better, like Iggy for him straight up, otherwise I would rather stick with him instead of attemtping another insipid Lateral Move.

Jason Kidd can only be dealt to LA, as he's too old for rebuilding teams and most other contenders have at least one quality PG each. Derek Fisher is ing old and always gets centrifuged out of the triangle offense due to his slowness/fatigue. Kidd is no better than him in this case, but they would easily create sufficient resting time for each other, something they both severely lack on their current teams.

[Cry Havoc]

Why would you want Ellis? He's a volume, low percentage shooter. I agree you need a penetrator, and Iggy would be a far better fit for you guys, if you had the room to sign him.

Terry is the only reason you guys have been in the last 3 games, so I'm not sure how you can justify trading him, although he does suck on D horrifically.

Kidd is awesome, but if you can move him for a guy that can get into the lane, it would be ideal. But who would you want from LA that the Lakers would be willing to deal you? They aren't getting rid of Bynum for old legs, Odom can't help you, and that doesn't leave much on their roster that would upgrade you over Jason.

[boston.balla]

say whatever you want but i really want dirk to leave dallas and sign with a real contender. He does not deserve what he got from his club. He has HOF talent and play but doesn't have the leadership for idiots like terry/damp/etc. Dirk with some serious but less talented players would have fared alot better imo, so the argument of leadership is jack .

You put one of the best leaders in nba on the thuggets, have a one year fluke and then play absolutely the same. There's no player with the leadership to motivate players with idiot mentalities. Who do you want dirk to motivate: contract damp, jho smokie, the jet, max contract matrix, jj-dwade-barea, antoine walker? People who bring up the leadership are just blind.

I would my pants so hard laughing if dirk were to sign with san antonio .. this board would go beyond epic.

[sribb43]

Mavs cans can't blame JHo, Breathe or Antoine Wright....

[ezau]

Imagine Dirk alongside TD. Stern would absolutely his pants

[Strike]

Imagine Dirk alongside TD. Stern would absolutely his pants

Only if they were playing for the Lakers, that is.

[phyzik]

Imagine Dirk alongside TD. Stern would absolutely his pants

Jefferson could opt out, we let Bonner and Mason walk, thats close to 20mil right there.

Duncan wouldnt be able to claim the PF spot anymore though

I think a Duncan and Dirk duo along with Manu, Parker and Hill would probably be the sickest lineup in the NBA, bar none.

It's nice to dream but it would never happen.

[Findog]

Dallas problem for years is that they have a #1 option in Dirk surrounded by several #3 options. At one point in time we had Michael Finley and Steve Nash, but that was before Dirk's prime. Dirk hasn't had that second option since Nash left.

As for next year, assuming Dirk doesn't opt out, or signs an extension, he'll be back. Which means we can say the following about the 2010/11 Mavs:

Dirk, Kidd, Jet, Marion, Carroll, Roddy will be Mavs next year. Jet, Marion and Carroll have contracts that will be extremely difficult to move. Barea has a team option next year for $1.8 million. Dampier has a team option for $13 million that can be declined in August for instant cap savings. Butler and Stevenson have 1 year left on their contracts for $14.6 million total. I believe Tim Thomas has one year left on his contact. Brendan Haywood will be resigned most likely because they have nothing at C after they trade Dampier.

The last chance the Mavs have to do anything in the Dirk Era is how they manage the $32 million dollars worth contracts of Dampier/Butler/Stevenson/Barea/Thomas this summer.

[jermaine]

Imagine Dirk alongside TD. Stern would absolutely his pants

Gino & Dirk in a P&R or P&P! Ooooo my dam that would be nice!

[DarrinS]

I actually feel sorry for Dirk. It sucks that his most aggressive guard is 5'7".

[MavDynasty]

If only the trio of nash finley and dirk were good defenders...

[Cry Havoc]

Things the Mavs need:

A lockdown (or at least well above average) defender.

A penetrating guard who can get into the paint at will.

A true 2nd scoring option around Dirk. The closet they've had is Josh Howard and that just won't cut it.

Optional but optimal -- A real post presence. No more placeholders. Dampier and Haywood are just not the answer, they're filler players who eat cap room. A 6'9" player who can score inside would be preferable to one of them.

[nkdlunch]

their biggest improvement would be to get a new owner

[Findog]

their biggest improvement would be to get a new owner

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board. Cuban the fan is embarrassing with some of his antics. Cuban the owner is fantastic with his deep pockets and willingness to spend money on his team.

The Grizzlies, Clippers and Warriors need a new owner, not the Mavericks.

[Findog]

Things the Mavs need:

A lockdown (or at least well above average) defender.

They have two of those on this roster, but one hasn't played and the other has gotten benched in the second half of the last two games.

A penetrating guard who can get into the paint at will.

They have that on the roster as well. Next year there will be no excuse to not play him 25-30 mpg.

A true 2nd scoring option around Dirk. The closet they've had is Josh Howard and that just won't cut it.

Could't agree more. Haven't had one of those since Michael Finley circa 2000-2002. Dallas isn't going to get any of the premier FAs, but they need to target Iguodala/Brand with Damp/Butler.

Optional but optimal -- A real post presence. No more placeholders. Dampier and Haywood are just not the answer, they're filler players who eat cap room. A 6'9" player who can score inside would be preferable to one of them.

I don't mind bringing Haywood back. They will have to after trading Damp in August since they won't have any other C on the roster. But a post player who can score inside would be nice.

[sribb43]

their biggest improvement would be to get a new owner

gtfo!!!

[sribb43]

I don't mind bringing Haywood back. They will have to after trading Damp in August since they won't have any other C on the roster. But a post player who can score inside would be nice.

I don't think Haywood comes back. First off, I think he hates Carlisle bc he has been jerked around with his minutes and being in and out of the starting lineup. Also, someone is going to vastly overpay for him bc be is a center. Like I've said before, I think mavs fans overrated him bc they are so used to seeing the garbage in Damp for the past 5 years

[nkdlunch]

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board. Cuban the fan is embarrassing with some of his antics. Cuban the owner is fantastic with his deep pockets and willingness to spend money on his team.

The Grizzlies, Clippers and Warriors need a new owner, not the Mavericks.

sorry but I gotta disagree. Cuban sticking his nose, talking to the media, getting into the team's business, always around the team is detrimental to an already mentally weak set of players IMO.

[LakerHater]

I don't think Haywood comes back. First off, I think he hates Carlisle bc he has been jerked around with his minutes and being in and out of the starting lineup. Also, someone is going to vastly overpay for him bc be is a center. Like I've said before, I think mavs fans overrated him bc they are so used to seeing the garbage in Damp for the past 5 years

Man, I'd like to see Haywood in Black & Silver!

[Mavs_man_41]

suddenly everyone's a ing expert all the sudden..how bout spur fan goes back to what he's best at, watching his team win games whilst not really knowing what's going on.

[Cry Havoc]

They have two of those on this roster, but one hasn't played and the other has gotten benched in the second half of the last two games.

Marion and.... ?

And I think Marion's defense is vastly overrated, especially considering he can't produce in a half-court set offense. Bowen wasn't a great offensive player by any means, but at least he could consistently hit the corner trey. Marion is useless against great defensive teams that slow the game down.

They have that on the roster as well. Next year there will be no excuse to not play him 25-30 mpg.

Butler? I haven't seen much from him at all yet. He doesn't seem capable of creating his own shot. What good is a guy who can light the regular season up but shuts down against playoff teams?

Unless you were talking about Barea, or someone else.

I don't mind bringing Haywood back. They will have to after trading Damp in August since they won't have any other C on the roster. But a post player who can score inside would be nice.

What does Haywood do well? He's been consistently outplayed by Dampier in this series, except for Damp's foul trouble. Damp is better on D, and Haywood doesn't do much to score inside.

[in2deep]

Man, I'd like to see Haywood in Black & Silver!

not me

[Shank]

suddenly everyone's a ing expert all the sudden..how bout spur fan goes back to what he's best at, watching his team win games whilst not really knowing what's going on.

You're just now figuring out they specialize in telling everyone else what to think, as though we're all beneath them?

[monosylab1k]

Marion and.... ?

Stevenson

Butler?

Beaubois

What does Haywood do well?

Catch wide open passes

[in2deep]

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board. Cuban the fan is embarrassing with some of his antics. Cuban the owner is fantastic with his deep pockets and willingness to spend money on his team.

The Grizzlies, Clippers and Warriors need a new owner, not the Mavericks.

Money is not everything. A rich father can have a ty kid easily.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5137075

why blame cuban? listen to this ^