I understand ya homie. When are coming back? We need to catch up and have a few cervesas.
His game isn't like Odom's by any means. I just think you are able to compare the two. Both were paid as the 1st or 2nd options from their previous teams and now they are on a team where they are the 4th or 5th options. Tough to become as productive when your opportunities are limited. That's why I tend to look at overall shooting percentage than actual numbers. (Jefferson's shooting percentage has improved from last year btw.)
I like the versatility Odom brings to the Lakers and I wish Spurs had a player off the bench that brings what he brings. He was the reason why Lakers beat the Spurs in 2008. Spurs didn't have an answer for him defensively and he absolutely killed us on the glass. Giving the Lakers a mul ude of 2nd chance opportunities. The knock on him throughout his tenure with the Lakers has been consistency and it still is a problem. Against the Spurs though he brings it for whatever reason.
And I don't think the guy will ever reach his full potential. Out of Rhode Island he had the potential to be a star in the league. There weren't very many 6'10" players out of college that had the potential to play every position.
Good observations, I totally agree. I just don't really like him because he very rarely seems to care. Maybe it's a misconception on my part i dunno. Anyway I'll be back towards the end of the summer man. We'll have a few when I'm back in the mother land for sure. GO SPURS GO!
RJ has played pretty Good so far In the playoffs.... if we can Get 11 to 18 pts a game from him, then we have a shot to beat anybody!
I can't believe everyone is still ing about RJ's paycheck. How many time's does this need to be explained?
RJ is better than Finley? No . He's also better than '08-'09 Bruce. He more than doubles Bowen's offensive production and there is only a marginal difference defensively. He actually almost makes up for Oberto and Thomas on the boards most nights. He'll be even better next year. I hope he stays.
Even if the Spurs if the Spurs knew then what they know now about RJ, I think they still pull the trigger on that deal. No question.
Lakers fan are right to complain about Odom and it's normal that Spurs fans do the same about RJ. A championship team doesn't need an overpaid, frustrating player, the Lakers won their le because they had the best roster with two of the best players in the league.
RJ upside is not the same as Odom either, Lamar has a combo of size/speed that makes him a nightmare to defend when he's on.
I don't buy in the argument that the Spurs couldn't find any other way to invest this kind of money, this is a league where some teams are ready to make crazy moves just to reduce the payroll, there must be a scenario where 15 millions lands you better than an underachieving Jefferson.
If the Spurs reach the finals and RJ finds a way to contribute significatively then it's all money well spent but there's still a lot games ahead.
I agree with you.... I think Jefferson has found his Roll With This team..... But more important I think the Team has finally Adapted to him as well!
Jeffard Richardson.
at this rate.. RJ needs to be like playoffs mvp for me to forgive him for his wrong doings all season
Who gets to be the Spurs "Khloe Kardashian"?
Oh get over yourself.
I'm just glad Richard Jefferson is an above-average player skill wise that can at times have empty games, not a below-average player (say Udoka) who can have a couple big games out of ten. Jefferson, in my opinion, has been a trooper this season on a team that is entirely new to him and his way of playing. What I like the most is, he has blocked more shots this season than almost the last 3 seasons combined, and per-36 minutes he's rebounded more than he has since 05-06. He's been one of the most athletic help defenders we've had in some time, and in the long run it's helped. Somebody like Caron Butler should be tearing our team up, but when RJ has defended him he's "stayed in front of him" about as well as we could ask without fouling or overcommitting. Add in the fact that he's been tasked with guarding power forwards at different parts of the season, I think his struggles are understandable, frustrating, but ultimately could be alot worse for him and our team.
i dunno... some guy O.o
I think people are still missing the point of this thread (as the OP intended it, I believe) in the fact that he's not comparing Odom's game to RJ's, but saying they take on the same role. Not that RJ takes threes, but that each of their games are important to their team's success.
In that sense, RJ is exactly the same as Odom. If they play to their capabilities and contribute, they suddenly take a very good team and turn it into a great team.
Odom has the ability to be an end-to-end dominant offensive talent in stretches, and is capable of actually carrying the Lakers for bursts or even for entire games. When Odom is on in addition to Kobe and Gasol, the Lakers are probably unbeatable.
RJ will never be anything other than a complimentary piece dependent on others.
Having said that, if the Spurs end up facing the Lakers, RJ outplaying Odom would be a key factor in victory for the Spurs.
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