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    I really hope people aren't sleeping on the Suns. They have been playing the best basketball for over a month going into the playoffs. They just dismantled the Blazers and are so much more balanced on both ends.
    last think you can do is sleep on any team in the playoffs, dont forget how much better the Spurs have been playing as well. Most of us didnt think we were getting past the Mavs in the first round the way we were playing toward the end of the season... I think we have found another gear and this should be a battle.

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    +1. There's only one Grant Hill.......
    he only has one ankle, cant wait...

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    he only has one ankle, cant wait...
    I don't know how to break this news, but Hill is playing like he never had an injury in his career. It's his 14th year in the league, so he obviously isn't the player he was 10 years ago. But he isn't playing like a guy with one ankle at all. He averaged 30 minutes per game, through 81 games in the regular season.

    I thought he was finished back when Phoenix signed him, but he's still going strong. He plays hard, and he plays smart. If he were wearing silver and black, we would all be carrying on about how he fits in here.

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    Amare Stoudemire plays better against the Spurs than he does against any other team by about 4 pts for 32.7 pts.
    This is usually by design to limit the Suns' other weapons. It's like the way the Spurs played Dirk this past series in order to limit Terry and Kidd. I don't expect this to change.

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    Nash and Amare have never played defense.

    And they won't start now.

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    I think it might come down to how much the Spurs have to play Bogans to cover Nash. If we can live with basically a 3-guard rotation of Manu, Hill, and Parker, Nash will not be able to rest like he once could on defense against bowen.

    However, if that tandem can't guard Nash effectively, Bogans will be less effective against Nash than Bowen was, while still letting him rest on the defensive end. That can't happen if we want to be successful.

    Tim needs to dominate the post, especially with no Shaq there. Play Dice man-to-man on Amare on D, and take what he gets. I'm less worried about him than I was Dirk anyway.

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    Spurs in 6 GO SPURS GO bring on the suns

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    As a Spurs fan I do have a few concerns about the Suns in this series. Gentry is a much better coach than D'Antoni. He's good at making in-game and game-to-game adjustments. I liked his coaching job in the Portland series. Amare has become a mature player and a force. He's adopted at least a shred of humility in his game. Perhaps all his years of watching Duncan have paid dividends somewhat. Richardson is a great player and hard to stop. Grant Hill is a leader and provides a lot of those small intangibles that don't often hit the boxscore. Nash is Nash and can make any team a tough team to stop.

    That being said, I'm feeling like the Spurs are coming together as a team. Our Hill is maturing, Jefferson is playing like he belongs, Playoff McDyess looks tough, the Big 3 are fairly healthy, and Pop has a good playoff rotation going.

    Spurs in 6...should be fun.

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    Steve Nash is playing with a wrenched back. He might not be much of a factor in this series.

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    We have matchup issues with the Mavs, obviously starting with Dirk... The Suns on the other hand, particularly with Lopez out, have matchup issues with us. They have 1 player, Grant Hill (Maybe), who can defend penetration from our top 3 guards (Parker, Manu, Hill) and then they have no bigs who can provide good help defense. Nor can their bigs defend TD, or even Blair I suspect, in the post. We should spend this entire series shooting from 6ft or less away from the Basket...At that point, I like our odds.

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    The Suns have no defense and will be eaten alive.

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    Steve Nash is playing with a wrenched back. He might not be much of a factor in this series.
    Steve Nash will always be a factor. Don't kid yourself.

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    That said the Spurs still have a huge mental advantage over the Suns. No Steve Nash lead team has ever beaten the Spurs in a playoff series. With the emergence of Hill, the Spurs have more fresh legs to absolutely remove Nash from being a factor in this series, and that is the first crucial step to beating the Suns. Remove Nash from the game, and his havoc style offense that can deliver points at will against any team will be neutralized. Remove Nash and you remove the Suns fast break.
    I hope the Spurs employ the same defensive scheme against him as they did against Kidd. Hound Nash and disrupt his game. As I said about Kidd I say about Nash - he is the head of the snake and the Spurs need to cut it off. Limit his playmaking ability and you will see a good but not great team. Play Nash the same way we have in the past and they can take this series.

    Jason Richardson is absolutely a playoff stud, but he isn't a franchise player. Playing the Guard Forward position he is the barometer to the Suns offense. If he gets going the Suns are almost always going to win. Any player that can erupt for 42 points in the playoffs is someone that has to be neutralized. Manu, Jefferson, Hill, and Bogans will probably all get a crack at locking him up and the Spurs success hinges on how well they do. Stopping his break away points is the most crucial part when you play J.Rich. There is probably not a faster person down the court than Richardson. In one play against the Trailblazers he corralled a rebound and passed the ball out just so he could take off full speed down the court to receive the alley-oop he knew would be there. It was a play more reminiscent of a football player receiving a touchdown pass than basketball. If the Spurs let that happen more than once in a quarter; the Spurs will lose that game.
    Agreed to a point. Richardson has really played well so far but I wouldn't call him a playoff stud just yet. This is the first time he has been in this situation and the Spurs D is better now than it has been all season. And I would ge do far as to say it's better than the Trailblazers. Much better but we'll see wont we.

    But point taken as to he being one of the keys to victory. As with Nash the Spurs need to have a player shadowing him at all times.

    You're being too harsh on TD and Manu. They will get 3 days off before the series starts on Monday. There is no Haywood or Dampier to wear TD down, and the Suns have never had an answer for Manu. Plus with George Hill rounding into form that only makes us better.

    The biggest question for me is how well the Spurs can keep the 3 point differential respectable. The Suns kill it from 3 point land, yet the Spurs are one of the best at guarding the 3.
    Concerning TD that is a very good point. Amare really doesn't play D and when he does it isn't that physical so I can see TD not getting banged around as much and therefore be more of a force.

    As for the 3 pt differential the Spurs are one of the best perimeter D teams in the league and their rotations against the Mavs suggest that this issue will be less of a factor in the series. But it will be a huge concern if they don't rotate.

    Good thing the Suns don't constantly attack in transition. They just won a series that featured a whole uvalot of half-court sets.

    The Blazers scored more than 90 points only twice in 6 games.
    Yep this Suns team is a different breed than the previous ones. They play half court much better than in the past so that will make this series a little more dicey for the Spurs. And their D is much better, too.

    And it took an ex-Spur to get you to the point of playing better D!

    If Grant Hill is guarding Tony Parker, he's going to go off.
    TP is coming on at exactly the right time. He is way too fast for HIll and will toast him regularly. And with the lane wide open I can see a layup drill happening consistently. Definitely TP, Hill and Manu all participating regularly.

    The Suns are quietly rolling right now. They look extremely tough because they're so good offensively - and it's in the half court, not just transition.
    They are and it's the half court issue that is a concern since this was never one in past series. And as already stated their D has improved so much.

    The past is no reason to think they won't win this time. Ditching Shawn Marion may be one reason why they advance.
    +1000

    Though Marion is an exciting player he just doesn't produce in a half court situation which is what the POs are mostly about, especially when playing the Spurs. All you have to do is just go back and review what he did against the Spurs in past POs series. He lacked any kind of consistency which was detrimetal to his team. Same went for him in the Mavs series. Great move by the Suns to move him and his millstone contract. Now the Mavs are saddled with his $40 M bonehead deal.

    Something that I think is getting underscored in this series is DeJuan Blair. He was not a very good matchup against the Mavs and therefore was used very little. A lot of people have written this off as "Pop just not playing rookies" but I think matchups were crucial to his limited court time. Against the Suns, Blair will be a considerable asset. He should be better able to not only put up stats but also spell Duncan and keep him fresh. This is a huge advantage from the Dallas series. Even if it only buys us 5 more minutes a game.


    I expect for him to get more time since the Suns bigs aren't in the same category as those of the Mavs. Another X factor and his nose for the ball I think will be huge in this series. Carlisle pointed that out as a key to the Spurs victory in game 4. He just gets to them more than others. It's those 50-50 balls that he gets that gives the Spurs extra possessions and second chance points.

    I also think he will get more than 5 minutes and I think you do too. And the rest he will give TD will be another significant advantage the Spurs will have and could possibily put hem over the top in this series. A rested and fresh TD come the 4th Q isn't a good sight for the Suns. IMHO

    As a Spurs fan I do have a few concerns about the Suns in this series. Gentry is a much better coach than D'Antoni. He's good at making in-game and game-to-game adjustments. I liked his coaching job in the Portland series.

    That being said, I'm feeling like the Spurs are coming together as a team. Our Hill is maturing, Jefferson is playing like he belongs, Playoff McDyess looks tough, the Big 3 are fairly healthy, and Pop has a good playoff rotation going.

    Spurs in 6...should be fun.
    Agreed. They needed a does of Spurs corporate knowledge to get to the level of D that they are currently playing.

    Anyway Mike D's scheme for BB is very exciting to watch and racks up a lot of Ws in the regular season (especially when you have enough talented players that is) but unravels come PO time. The POs are about a slowed down half court type of play and Gentry, knowing that, has made the Suns play accordingly.

    This team is finally coming together and that doesn't bode well for the Suns. But this series is going to be a tough one and most likely will go 6 or 7. I don't think the Spurs are going to take it in 5 as others have said and it wouldn't surprise me to see them lose it. This is not the Suns of old and Pop will have to be on top of the rotations just as the players will have to be able to exploit any mismatches that happen on the court.

    As rotations go we will need to get more contributions out of Bonner, Blair, Bogans and Mason. As the POs go forward this will have to increase. We can't get to the Finals depending on 6 guys. But my gut feeling is that it will - Blair specifically. This will be his type of series IMHO.

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    don't double team, don't let the role players get open looks, force Nash to be a scorer, chase him around the screens, tire him out...

    If Richardson and Stoudemire have to create all their own shots, instead of getting spoon fed by Nash, Phoenix becomes very defendable

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    I am being hard on Duncan and Manu. How they respond as the playoffs get deeper is probably the biggest obstacle between making this a trophy year or just a deep run. But at this point it is hard to avoid the fact that their ability to step on the gas is the biggest question mark going forward.

    I agree about the three point shooting.

    maybe it is a mistyping, but.......are we seriously putting in doubt the outcome of Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan in play-off compe ion????

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    don't double team, don't let the role players get open looks, force Nash to be a scorer, chase him around the screens, tire him out...

    If Richardson and Stoudemire have to create all their own shots, instead of getting spoon fed by Nash, Phoenix becomes very defendable
    +1

    I agree that Nash is the key -that's what I think you were saying. Get in his jersey and never leave. Make him work like they made Kidd work and see what happens. The Suns ball movement is a thing to watch but when disrupted then they are very defendable as you said.

    As for the double temas I think they need to be thrown in there from time to time. Keep the Suns guessing as to when and where they will come. Just like Dirk was kept off balance the Suns should be treated likewise.

    Both JR and Amare don't create their shots very well. They need Nash to be the type of players they have been so far.

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    Them having Robin Lopez or not will loom large toward's PHX's defensive capabilities. The Spurs cannot guard Nash the same way in 07 because the weapon of choice is now wearing a bow-tie and speaking on national TV for the 4-letter.

    The Spurs have to contend with a team that is better at half-court than ever. However, there is only 1 ball and for as well as Phoenix shared the ball against Portland, there is a huge chasm in defensive intensity between Portland and San Antonio.

    I think, if you've got to bring a Blair to the game, let him go Grizzly! Physicality will rule the series, and the Spurs have that.

    Our AZ peeps beg to differ though.
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    Grant Hill: 2 blocked shots 12 rebounds and a plus/minus of +26 in his last game against Portland. .
    Portland was the dented s of their former selves.

    One Bruce Bowen (wanna be) ain't going to stop Tony, Manu and George. We just have too many options in the 1/2 court set.

    If the Spurs take care of the ball, they'll control the tempo.

    Spurs in 5.

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    Somebody have to step up and guard Nash well, probably Hill

    Remember there's no Bruce to kill Nash this time nut at the other end Nash can't rest on D like he did in the past years

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    As a Spurs fan I do have a few concerns about the Suns in this series. Gentry is a much better coach than D'Antoni. He's good at making in-game and game-to-game adjustments. I liked his coaching job in the Portland series. Amare has become a mature player and a force. He's adopted at least a shred of humility in his game. Perhaps all his years of watching Duncan have paid dividends somewhat. Richardson is a great player and hard to stop. Grant Hill is a leader and provides a lot of those small intangibles that don't often hit the boxscore. Nash is Nash and can make any team a tough team to stop.

    That being said, I'm feeling like the Spurs are coming together as a team. Our Hill is maturing, Jefferson is playing like he belongs, Playoff McDyess looks tough, the Big 3 are fairly healthy, and Pop has a good playoff rotation going.

    Spurs in 6...should be fun.
    Great post.


    For me one of the biggest threat during this serie will be the 3 pts defense, if we don't contest enough their 3 pts shooting, we will be in trouble no matter what.

    BTW on our side if on one hand the lack of 3 pts shooting can be seen like a blessing in disguise: Spurs cannot count anymore on the 3s therefore maybe it forced a litle the team to go inside which is good. On another hand, for this serie we will have to make some 3s.

    But Matt B is check & Matt, mason is dead, RJ is shooting the 3 lately only when he is wiiiiidddeeee open, Hill is more a corner 3 specialist ala bruce, TP can't shoot it, our hope is on Manu.

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