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I am a jag fan after that
Hill was nowhere near the scorer last year that he is this year. He got all of that last summer.
A little perspective here
Parker since approx end of March has been looking very good. People forget how bad he was before that however.. and all the missed games due to injuries.
All I got to say is thank god we had George Hill to step up in his absence and play consistent basketball for approx 1/2 the season while Parker was either playing like and/or nursing injuries.
Now let's hope Tony can stay healthy because he is one of the best ... no actually he IS the best penetrating point guard in the league when he's on his game and he's been proving it as of late.
I like when the game was on da line & Manu ran over 4 da ball & Hill basiclly told him off & Manu walked off lookin bac at Pop. Classic. Da look on Manus face.
Of course their jump shots are going to look similar, since they both retooled their stroke under Chip, pretty much from the ground up.
Hill is good at incorporating things into his game. He's picked up several of TP's moves, and even worked a little Manu and Tim into his game. He seems to be the kind of person that if he sees something that works a lot, he'll study it and try to work it into his game. The more he's exposed to, the better he'll be it seems like.
Both of them are scoring Pg;s/; Combo Guards, and have respective strengths and weaknesses relative to each other, but both of them can play with Manu, or with each other. Parker is a better driver and finisher in the paint, though Hills shooting is ahead. All I could think of after seeing the Box score was the fact that our guard trio combined for 57, 15 and 15. Thats ridiculous.
They're not the same, but they are similar, and I think Hill has seemed to be a perfect complement as a third guard to Manu and TP. He's big enough to play the 2 against most people, and a decent enough ball handler to play PG and ensures a good corner 3 shooter. Are they exactly the same? No. But they are similar
george has still a lot of room for improvement in terms of pg position. but as a shooting guard, he is a really good defender, slasher and very good 3point shooter. tony parker is still the main man when it comes to point guard position. tony parker is faster and better passer.
both are really good. they have different abilities that will help the team.
parker saved us games 2 n 3. george saved us games 4 n 6
still.. i love georgie better as a starter. parker is good coming of the bench.
Hill is Jason Terry, with better D...
offensively I think their games are similar, I think Hill has better shooting range than Tony, but Tony is faster to the hole and more crafty around the basket. Defensively I think Tony is quicker, but people give the edge to Hill because of his length.
I couldn't get over how the commentators last night kept calling Hill a "young stud" and "future star of this league", along with Beaubois. Good to see some other people finally realizing how good some of these lesser known players are. Let's just hope the Spurs can lock up George before someone else overpays him.
Say what now?
Did you not see how well we played without TP, Hill fits the side great TP can play with any offense without a doubt he's a one man wrecking crew.
Hill is our next big thing book that in for sure!
Hill has learnt everything from TP thats a fact get with the program!
SA needed both guys in this series. TP is probably not 100% even now. With a summer of rest (Hopefully) he can be the same unguardable player he was in 2008-09.
Manu, Hill, Parker. It's like having a Porsche Turbo, A Ferrari, and a BMW Z4 in your garage.
They are all fine cars, get you where you want to go in great style, and have enough different characteristics to make you want all of them.
So what models would the rest of the team be?
I shouldn't have gotten as irritated by this thread as i obviously was last night. I guess i get tired of seeing the "Hill is ready to take over" threads every single time hill does well.
Hill is great, but he hasn't shown anything that says he can run the offense. The only way the Spurs get by without TP is if they run the offense off of Manu. That doesn't seem too smart considering he can only play 30 min/game.
Hill getting some well deserved nice press.
Finding the Future of the Franchise
By Austin Burton
SLAM
When it came time to separate the men from the Mavs, last night’s Dallas/San Antonio game was decided by the grizzled vets who have been through these wars before: Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobili, Jason Kidd and the rest.
But leading up to crunch time, two of the most valuable players on the court were 23-year-old George Hill and 22-year-old Rodrigue Beaubois. As the Mavs fought back from a terrible first half where their offense was stuck settling for jumpers, Beaubois (16 pts) attacked the rim repeatedly and scored over Duncan. And as the Spurs fought off that Dallas comeback, Hill dropped 17 of his 21 points in the second half, including backdoor layups and dagger threes.
At one point, TNT’s Reggie Miller anointed Hill and Beaubois “the future of this rivalry.” And maybe Reggie was just trying to say something bombastic to make the highlight reel, but I think he could be onto something.
For Hill, who had put up 29 points in Game 4, it was yet another big-time performance in what is becoming a breakout postseason for the second-year pro. For Beaubois, who had seen only spot minutes in the series before Thursday, it was the rookie’s first significant playoff action (unfortunately his last for this year), and he delivered.
Who would’ve seen this coming six months ago? Hill was a little-known product of a small college (IUPUI) despite being a first-round draft pick in ‘08, whose rookie season was nothing special stat-wise. Beaubois was an unknown project from Guadelupe when he was drafted in the ‘09 first round and not expected to be a major contributor this year. Can these two really become future stars for their respective franchises?
Whether they become All-Stars or career role players, Hill and Beaubois are a testament to good scouting and good coaching. Both players fit right into their team’s system, and they’ve been brought along at a good pace under the guidance of respected vets and solid coaches. Now they’ve been introduced to the postseason pressure-cooker and passed the initial test.
Every team in the NBA has one or two young players viewed as The Future. I didn’t foresee George Hill and Roddy Beaubois assuming those roles for the Spurs and Mavs, but by this time next year don’t be shocked if they’re more than just pleasantly surprising X-factors.
I would like to see Hill become a better road player.
This is a re ed post. He didnt compare every aspect of their game. Hes comparing ballhandling and shooting form you ing idiot.
I disagree with that. Terry is a much better offensive player(but inconsistent) overall.
So basically youre holding the fact that Pop is milking Manu, who has probably been a TOP 10 player in the league over the last few months, against Hill? I mean you are aware that even Parker would likely be deferring to Manu if he was starting right. Besides in yesterdays game, which was arguably the biggest game of the season, Hill actually had his share of pick n roll plays run for him...even with Manu and Tony in there. This has been happening for a while btw, now obviously a young up and coming 2nd year player isnt going to get as many plays called for him as say Manu, but to say that he isnt capable of having plays run through him is stupid. I'll turn the question on you and ask what has he done to show that he isnt capable of that? Cause from what Ive seen he's been coming through for the team for months now.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. If there was any question whether this kid had balls that play erased them. That was big time.
I don't think you get it.
Agreed. Before TP's injury they were really clicking together. But with TP's injury I think that was a blessing in disguise since it gave Hill more PT and helped accelerate his game.
Best to learn for your betters. Bodes well for both but the Spurs have the better player.
Good points. When Hill was playing the 1 the team's movement slowed down significantly. They litterally became stagnant and it was painful to watch. That doesn't mean in time he won't improve his play at the 1 but as of now it is better for TP or Manu to assume that role. And next year we'll be able to see if Temple has what it takes to be the backup PG. Hill is best at the 2 and isn't really a 1. If Temple proves to be that illusive backup PG we've all been hoping for this would really put SA in a great situation. I think they would have the best starting and backup back court in the league.
Starting: TP and Hill
2nd unit: Temple and Manu.
Wasn't ready but since the Spurs weren't going anywhere due to Manu being out it might have been a good idea to get him valuable playoff experience and played him from the getgo.
Ditto!
As of now I see him as so so to great at home and mostly disapperaring on the road. I think with time that will go away and he will become more consistent. This is based on what I saw in the regular season with this being his first real test in the POs. So far so good and you might even consider that games 1 & 2 were an aberration since he was coming off an ankle injury and not quite ready. Though I think it came out that he was mentally unprepared at the beginning of the Mavs series. As of now I think he is plugged in and ready to go. Maybe he has "turned the corner" so to say and this is what we can expect from here on out.
Bad news for the Suns IMHO.
If it was TP who did that, he'll be arrogant, selfish, or a ballhog. I am amazed at a lot of people in this board who thinks so little of TP after everything he has done for the Spurs. It's ridiculous how TP does not even get half of the love that George gets. But I digress.
Tony has been with the Spurs for years and knows the Spurs offense like the back of his hand so of course he can run it better than Hill.Hill/Parker backcourt works so well because they cover each other's flaws so well. I wouldn't say Hill is better than Parker but Hill is definitely only getting better.
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