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  1. #26
    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    I know Dirk beasted and scored almost at will, but he really has to learn how to play defense and rebound a little. He was all over the Spurs on O but nonexistent on the other side of the court. Even when Duncan struggled to score he was still controlling the paint on defense and boarding like a madman.

    If Dirk could develop these skills he could play center and give the Mavs a little more flexibility in their crunchtime lineups to play their best guys. I know Mavs fans dont want to hear about his shortcomings after the game he had last night, but these are legit things that hurt Dallas in this series, and in the final game.
    His defense isn't as bad as people think. It's not great, but a lot of that is just due to lack of effort, because he has to save so much of the offensive end, because he doesn't ever have consistent help on offense.

    He is a very good defensive rebounder, but the thing is, the team has a bunch of good rebounders in Kidd, Butler, Marion, Dampier, Haywood, Najera, so the rebounding gets distributed evenly and takes away from individual rebounding. Plus, since he is often out on the perimeter, he doesn't get a lot of offensive rebounds. That's why his rebounding stat is never in double digits, because even though he gets as many or more defensive rebounds than a lot of elite rebounders, he doesnt get the added 3-4 offensive boards that they get, because their styles and systems allow that, Dirk's doesnt. But Dirk is a VERY underrated and VERY good rebounder. He times his rebounds better than almost anyone in the league, which makes up for his lack of ups.

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    I think Joe would be exactly what the Mavs need. He is not a slasher, but does it enough to have a balanced game. He should be taking 3's. That is a good thing.

    If Roddy is not the answer at SG, then a player like Joe (who the mavs have no chance at) would be ideal. But I think they need another big, which is crazy considering they have Haywood.

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    Rudy Gay, tbh

  4. #29
    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    Or we could just go with Ghazi's idea and S&T for Wade!

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    Mavs have no shot at S&T for any major player. You only have a shot at someone like Iggy realistically. Someone who has a bad contract, and solid talent.

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    There ya sit, dirk4, broken hearted, had to , but only farted.

    I think the Spurs guys want to play you guys again. They've attached themself to the Suns asshole and I can't get them to turn a loose.

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    Mavs have not shot at S&T for any major player. You only have a shot at someone like Iggy realistically. Someone who has a bad contract, and solid talent.
    Don't tell Ghazi det.

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    There ya sit, dirk4, broken hearted, had to , but only farted.

    I think the Spurs guys want to play you guys again. They've attached themself to the Suns asshole and I can't get them to turn a loose.
    Actually I did take a . Meatball Marinara subs are great, imho.

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    Serious question. What about the balls on the Spurs basically tanking and asking for the Mavs in round 1?

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Actually I did take a . Meatball Marinara subs are great, imho.
    I had a terrible one the other day.

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    Serious question. What about the balls on the Spurs basically tanking and asking for the Mavs in round 1?
    Its a means to an end. The end in this case being you waxing the Suns and then heading West so we can end you properly.

    & I'm not hearing a lot of jackassing since last night. I see you and the Suns in bed together tossing each other's salad.

    I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.

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    "The ball don't lie." dbestpro's Avatar
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    Mavs have no shot at S&T for any major player. You only have a shot at someone like Iggy realistically. Someone who has a bad contract, and solid talent.
    Here's a ball breaker, would you do a sign and trade for of Dirk for Bosh?

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    no. Bosh is a very good player, but overrated imo.

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    you are a faggot Phillip's Avatar
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    I personally think out of all the sign and trade possibilities, the Mavericks have the best chance to land Bosh.
    I would really like that. Bosh, Dirk, Beaubois, and Butler? Nasty.

    Just the thought of Bosh and Beaubois as the duo for years to come is very nice.

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    yeah, if you're goal is to be average.

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    No matter what happens, I'm sick and tired of watching Jason Terry on this team.
    i still cringe every time he's left open at the 3 point line.

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    His defense isn't as bad as people think. It's not great, but a lot of that is just due to lack of effort, because he has to save so much of the offensive end, because he doesn't ever have consistent help on offense.
    Maybe not all the time. But in this series it was.

    He is a very good defensive rebounder, but the thing is, the team has a bunch of good rebounders in Kidd, Butler, Marion, Dampier, Haywood, Najera, so the rebounding gets distributed evenly and takes away from individual rebounding. Plus, since he is often out on the perimeter, he doesn't get a lot of offensive rebounds. That's why his rebounding stat is never in double digits, because even though he gets as many or more defensive rebounds than a lot of elite rebounders, he doesnt get the added 3-4 offensive boards that they get, because their styles and systems allow that, Dirk's doesnt. But Dirk is a VERY underrated and VERY good rebounder. He times his rebounds better than almost anyone in the league, which makes up for his lack of ups.
    Yeah, yeah. Point being he's not dominant rebounding in any phase. He's not the type of player to control the glass, no matter who his teammates are. It doesn't make him a bad player, just like his lack of D doesn't. But they're flaws. Ones that contributed to the Mavs losing this series, despite his scoring outbursts.

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    I think a Butler/Dampier (both expiring next season) for Maggette/Biedrinis trade is posible and would make the Mavs better.

    Swapping Terry for Butler in the trade would be even better for Dallas but then I wouldn't be so sure that the Warriors would go for it.

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    WTF was Cuban thinking when he gave Marion a 5 years contract?

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    I think Joe would be exactly what the Mavs need. He is not a slasher, but does it enough to have a balanced game. He should be taking 3's. That is a good thing.

    If Roddy is not the answer at SG, then a player like Joe (who the mavs have no chance at) would be ideal. But I think they need another big, which is crazy considering they have Haywood.
    agreed. The mavs just got taunted "jump shooting team" but honestly they don't have enough guys shooting 3 pointers very well. Kidd is probably their only guy who cranks out consistent products from the arc, JET used to be good there but he's not less inconsistent than anyone else nowadays.

    Furthermore, the Mavs desperately need a SG with size. Caron has good size but the SF spot seems to fit him better IMHO. Sometimes Caron just has to be rammed at SG b/c Mavs don't have such a SG like Joe Johnson. Caron is fine to guard other longer-yet-slower SGs but he struggles coping with the quick ones like Manu, and that's why Carlisle would rather use 3-PGs on court than put Caron there. Caron is a good player overall but his shooting has been far overrated IMHO. Jet/Kidd/Barea call can shoot the 3 well from time to time and there's no doubt about their skills of shooting. IMHO it's often just their short size that limits their consistency and reliability.

    It's not only in paint does size matter, sometimes a shooter needs it more IMHO, which you should know better than anyone.

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    Spurs tanked because they were probably gonna play the Mavs anyway, and they knew it. If the Spurs did NOT tank then chances are the Blazers beat Golden State later that night instead of opting to rest their starters knowing their 6th place seed was clinched.

    Iggy is not overrated, he is underrated if anything. Johnson is better, but Iggy would fill a lot of team needs as well. Someone said may as well go for Maggette. No Iggy is way better than Maggette.

    Iggy: athleticism, defense, playmaking, points in paint, FTAs... all areas the Mavs could use help in. However, not a great shooter.




    Resign Haywood. Beaubois needs a bigger role next year. Terry needs to be traded or turned into a 15 MPG player whose inconsistencies wont hurt the team. This team relied on JET this year and he failed to perform in the playoffs, just as the yer before and the year before that. This guy is a below average playoff player based on the last 3-4 years.

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    Carlisle just said on the radio that his plans for Beaubois is to be a backup PG next year.

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    Spurs tanked because they were probably gonna play the Mavs anyway, and they knew it. If the Spurs did NOT tank then chances are the Blazers beat Golden State later that night instead of opting to rest their starters knowing their 6th place seed was clinched.

    Iggy is not overrated, he is underrated if anything. Johnson is better, but Iggy would fill a lot of team needs as well. Someone said may as well go for Maggette. No Iggy is way better than Maggette.

    Iggy: athleticism, defense, playmaking, points in paint, FTAs... all areas the Mavs could use help in. However, not a great shooter.




    Resign Haywood. Beaubois needs a bigger role next year. Terry needs to be traded or turned into a 15 MPG player whose inconsistencies wont hurt the team. This team relied on JET this year and he failed to perform in the playoffs, just as the yer before and the year before that. This guy is a below average playoff player based on the last 3-4 years.
    I don't know how much better than Maggette Iggy truly is, this season Corey averaged 20 ppg in less than 30 min per game while shooting 516 % from the field, he has always been a very efficient offensive player that attack the rim and gets to FT line a lot. IMO Maggette > AI offensively

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    Carlisle just said on the radio that his plans for Beaubois is to be a backup PG next year.
    He should be your backup guard, playing that kid less than 30 min per game would be a shame.

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    Carlisle just said on the radio that his plans for Beaubois is to be a backup PG next year.
    he better be talking about roddy as the sixth man. if not, fire his ass.

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