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    If there's one team he's not going to, it's San Antonio. Get over that immediately.

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    IMHO, Dirk needs to get the away from Mark Cuban if he wants to win a le.

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    That sounds like a quote from Tim. Dirk deserves the blame for 07, but otherwise he's been pretty damn good in the playoffs his entire career. I still remember him plastering 40 on the Spurs like it was nothing in his first playoffs. I always wonder what would have happened had they not made that disastrous trade for Antoine Walker and kept that 03 team together. Dallas makes way too many panic trades.
    I think it was a quote from Tim too.

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    I'm not really sure why the player felt he needed to be quoted anonymously on that...

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    Stein quoting anonymously doesn't mean the player requested anonymity.

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    Dirk looks like a newborn horse or giraffe....he is awkward out there running around, tripping, falling, flailing, and flopping. He is the epitome of the uncoordinated white guy. The NBA hands him over half of his FTs on a silver platter. I mean the guy can't run 90 ft without tasting the hardwood, whether someone touches him or not. He is so goofy and clumsy that he often runs into his own players and falls down, then gets the foul call.

    He is the Superstar, the head guy on the team. He deserves every ounce of thrown his way for the lack of success. If David, Chuck, Stockton, and Malone had to deal with it, then so does Dirk. Dirk should be the #2 on the Mavs. He is not the type of leader that makes his teammates better. He is the type of leader that makes himself better and tries to carry the team by himself.......instead of lifting them up so the team will rise together.

    Dirk would be a fool to leave Dallas this season. $21 million dollars is a uva lot of money to throw away. I think he should bolt Dallas after next season, once he stole even more of Cuban's money and gave him little in return.

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    If there's one team he's not going to, it's San Antonio. Get over that immediately.
    Thank goodness.........I dont want his ass in SA. That being said, if it did happen.....we would get crucified even more on here for getting love from Stern and the refs....since Dirk would bring 14 trips a game to the FT line.

    BTW, I honestly feel if Dirk were to become a Spur, his FT attempts would be cut in half and his % would drop to the low 80s, if not the 70s. You cant shoot a high percentage from the FT line and wear the silver and black.

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    Most likely then not and to some extent it has already been proven many times that you need at least 2 Super stars to win a championship. An exception to this could be MJ but he had many "smaller" starts alongside him.

    Dirk is the only true super star at Dallas - the other guys are good but not there.

    Lebron is another example of only one guy there. Maybe with Shaq he can win.

    Kobe until Gasol showed up couldn't win a championship even after scoring 50 pts a game.

    Iverson is the epitome of this.

    The list goes on. This isn't of course set in stone but it's most likely than not.

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    Most likely then not and to some extent it has already been proven many times that you need at least 2 Super stars to win a championship. An exception to this could be MJ but he had many "smaller" starts alongside him.

    Dirk is the only true super star at Dallas - the other guys are good but not there.

    Lebron is another example of only one guy there. Maybe with Shaq he can win.

    Kobe until Gasol showed up couldn't win a championship even after scoring 50 pts a game.

    Iverson is the epitome of this.

    The list goes on. This isn't of course set in stone but it's most likely than not.

    Pippen = Superstar

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    It's possible that this is Pop. Stein refers to a Spur, and probably means a player, but the quote rings of something that Pop would say -- though I think Pop would subs ute "sh*t" for "crap." A coach could conceivably qualify as a Spur, I suppose.

    Whoever said it, I absolutely agree with it.

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    Spur player: "Dirk doesn't deserve the crap he gets."
    Sounds like Bonner to me.
    The word Spur player undermines your theory.

    (Actually, Bonner is the type of player that could have a huge series against Phoenix. Don't be surprised if it happens. "Matt Bonner Breaks Out." Raising expectations. But then don't be surprised if he shrivels up again against the Lakers -- and the Spurs do well in the series anyway.)

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    That sounds like a quote from Tim. Dirk deserves the blame for 07, but otherwise he's been pretty damn good in the playoffs his entire career. I still remember him plastering 40 on the Spurs like it was nothing in his first playoffs. I always wonder what would have happened had they not made that disastrous trade for Antoine Walker and kept that 03 team together. Dallas makes way too many panic trades.
    A direct reflection of Cuban's harried, and loose approach to managing his team. Instant gratification was never needed more by anyone than by Cuban.

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    I thought Pop was the one who said, "Dirk doesn't deserve the crap he gets."

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    "While you have to love Cuban's passion and willingness to spend money – the trade with Washington cost him about $30 million – he's created an atmosphere in which it's OK to suggest there's some other reason the Mavs lost besides their own incompetence. "

    EXACTLY. This has been my contention all along. The Suns and Mavs are similar in their approach, although the Suns have been more successful than the Mavs. They both tend make excuses and blame the refs, the league, or the other teams' shenanigans, rather than simply giving what's necessary to win and looking to themselves for solutions to their problems.

    "Mavs owner Mark Cuban didn't trade for Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood in February, taking on millions in extra salary and luxury tax in the process, to make such a swift return to the early playoff misery inflicted by Golden State in 2007. Dallas became the first No. 1 seed in league history to lose a best-of-seven series in the first round that year ... and just became the first No. 2 to lose in Round 1 since the NBA went to a best-of-seven format in 2003."

    EXACTLY. This is Cuban's other big problem. He thinks that real basketball is like fantasy basketball. All you have to do is to put together the right players and you'll win. No, not really.. this is still a team sport.

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    The one thing Dirk should take blame for is his 3rd and 4th fouls, which were about the dumbest things I've ever seen a HoF player do in a game of that magnitude. For a moment I wondered if he was trying to get bench.

    Dude definitely stepped it up in the second half, but it's not completely apparent that the only way he's getting a ring is by being a #1a or #2 player a la Garnett.

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    "While you have to love Cuban's passion and willingness to spend money – the trade with Washington cost him about $30 million – he's created an atmosphere in which it's OK to suggest there's some other reason the Mavs lost besides their own incompetence. "

    EXACTLY. This has been my contention all along. The Suns and Mavs are similar in their approach, although the Suns have been more successful than the Mavs. They both tend make excuses and blame the refs, the league, or the other teams' shenanigans, rather than simply giving what's necessary to win and looking to themselves for solutions to their problems.

    "Mavs owner Mark Cuban didn't trade for Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood in February, taking on millions in extra salary and luxury tax in the process, to make such a swift return to the early playoff misery inflicted by Golden State in 2007. Dallas became the first No. 1 seed in league history to lose a best-of-seven series in the first round that year ... and just became the first No. 2 to lose in Round 1 since the NBA went to a best-of-seven format in 2003."

    EXACTLY. This is Cuban's other big problem. He thinks that real basketball is like fantasy basketball. All you have to do is to put together the right players and you'll win. No, not really.. this is still a team sport.
    The problem is the Mav's roster. If you have a centerpiece, but he can't anchor a le team, you're screwed. That's Dirk. Great player. Hard worker. Just not the right type of player to win a le around.

    Like Dwight Howard in Orlando. Or, maybe, LeBron James. Or (please check yourselves) David Robinson (whom I loved as a Spur).

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    The one thing Dirk should take blame for is his 3rd and 4th fouls, which were about the dumbest things I've ever seen a HoF player do in a game of that magnitude. For a moment I wondered if he was trying to get bench.

    Dude definitely stepped it up in the second half, but it's not completely apparent that the only way he's getting a ring is by being a #1a or #2 player a la Garnett.
    I agree. I said to Dirk on the TV, out loud: "What are you thinking?" It seemed like he just got frustrated and emotional and was very much out of control.

    His complaint on the 4th foul vs Hill was that Hill hooked his arm as Nowitzki flew by on the 3-pt. runoff. Looking at the replay that was somewhat valid. But as a defender, you have to be careful not to put your arms where the offensive player can come up and cause you to foul him. That's exactly what Hill did -- it was a very professional move.

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    At first I thought this quote referred to how many free throws Dirk is awarded in the playoffs.

    However, he wasn't protected as much as he was in 2006. That was insane.

    I agree with others that Dirk doesn't make the players around him better. He's a great disruptive force on offense but his game doesn't really include others. He's not selfish but his game is very solitary. Coincidentally or not, most of the other Mavs aren't great team players either. Most are guys who think they are stars but are forced into complementary roles.

    The David Robinson comparison is valid in that he alone can't win you a le, but their games were totally different. David was like the ultimate team/glue guy of all time, but because of his talent, had to be the superstar in the front.

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