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    Now that is definitely crazy talk!
    Oh NOW you recognize crazy talk

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    Hill is better than rose at basketball...............interviews.

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    Okay, maybe I should post the question in another way.

    How many years will it take George Hill to play at the level of Derrick Rose today?

    I say 1 1/2 years.

    Rose, assuming he improves year over year will continue to be better than Hill. But I think Hill has the potential to be really good (not the best, but comparable to the best). Kinda like Manu is really good, but he's not better than Kobe, LeBron or even Wade.

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    lol @ some of these names taken before Hill in the draft.

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    All I'm saying is that IF (BIG IF) that he makes improvements this summer (bulking up, becoming more explosive to the rim, improving ball handling skills), he could be comparable to Rose.

    I mean, Tony Parker can be compared to the top guards in the league. But say for example Deron Williams, however I think Deron Williams is definitely better (but that's debatable).
    I hope you're right and he does continue to make those improvements but the oddds are against him. In fact I see him making another leap and then most likely making smaller incremental steps there after. In athletics is just seems to work out hat way. Rarely do you see a player making vast improvements later in their careers. It's that first 3 or so years that usually determines to what level they go to. IMHO

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    I hope you're right and he does continue to make those improvements but the oddds are against him. In fact I see him making another leap and then most likely making smaller incremental steps there after. In athletics is just seems to work out hat way. Rarely do you see a player making vast improvements later in their careers. It's that first 3 or so years that usually determines to what level they go to. IMHO
    Here's the thing about Hill, he didn't get a high level of compe ion or training at IUPUI. In the first year he was extremely raw. This year he's improving as the season moves on. His ball handling skills have improved considerably. I think his shooting is just about the same at the start of the year. The 3 point shot from the corner and his mid range jumper he had that at the beginning of the year. The difference is the confidence, and the at ude that he needs to take charge and create his own play. Now, at this stage, I doubt he can be as effective if he was double teamed.

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    Easy... he's good, but are you telling me... that if the Bulls offered us to trade Rose for Hill, that you wouldn't giggle and say yes immediately?
    I love Hill but I would make this trade. Rose is the franchise in Chicago, a guy you can build around, HIll is a guy who has great talent and could become a force, right now though he is a gutsy player with a great core to play off. I don't discount his level of confidence in his shot, right now for us that is very important. I think that HIll and Rose are going to be relevant in this league for quite a while.

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    No.

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    Oh NOW you recognize crazy talk


    thank you.

    this is all done with assumptions that rose doesn't improve himself.


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    Not even close. Hill is a damn good player but he is not Rose caliber.

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    Saying Hill > Parker is one thing, but saying Hill > Rose is even worse. Hill is a beast and he has the potential to be great, but let's apply the brakes a bit.

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    I'll take Rose today. But will you be able to say the same a year from now?
    Yes lol easily... and the year after... and the year after... and 5 years from now

    lulz delusional spurs fans

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    Are we seriously comparing George Hill to Derrick Rose?

    Oh wait....ceperez thread. Nevermind.
    So, the Bogans-Fan Boy makes another brain dead remark.

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    Derrick Rose now IMO is in contention for the best PG in the league.
    Not really. D-will is light years ahead of this kid, at the moment.

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    Saying Hill > Parker is one thing, but saying Hill > Rose is even worse. Hill is a beast and he has the potential to be great, but let's apply the brakes a bit.
    A 100% Tony Parker is on a level with Rose, as well. He's definitely not 100% right now, as evidenced by his relying on jumpers in the Dallas series.

    It's amazing how quickly Spurs fans forget how dominant Parker was last year. He was a top 3 PG in the league, and might have been even better this year if he wasn't hurt most of the season.

    Right now, Hill is still a full tier below a healthy Tony Parker, at least. Parker is probably 80-85% right now and they're fairly equal players, although I'd still rather have Parker for most situations.

    Loving how far Hill has come along though, even if it spawns crazy threads like this.

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    Rose is a true pg, Hill is not. Hill's game is better suited to play sg but is sloted to play pg because of lack of size.
    what this guy said.

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    I remember last year when Tony Parker went down and Hill started I went to a Bulls/Spurs game and George out played the Rookie of the year. I think D-Rose is a much better athlete and can get to the rim at will, but George wouldn't be a bad starting point guard for a rebuilding team. By "he wouldn't be bad" I meant he would be really good. Just to clear things up.
    Why would you say this? Hill has not shown the ability to be an assist man of any quality. That was why we were forced to have Manu play the point with tony down, and why manu was basically the pg for the second unit.

    And this is not from a lack of trying to teach Hill pg skills. Many say pg is the hardest position to teach because it is so judgment-based. Very hard to teach court vision, passing angles, controlling the pace, passing in the fast break, etc.

    Now, one on one, defense/offense scoring, comparing the two is another thing.

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    Won't comment on the original, ridiculous premise.

    One thing that did catch my interest is where Hill would've gone if they could re-draft. Does he make lottery/late teens? I remember draft night the Spurs got a C- or something like that from draft sites. I won't lie, I wanted to throw a brick through my TV when I heard the name George Hill.

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    Hill is good but not that good, but one day he may be as good, all depends.

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    If Hill is a bum, the lakers backcourt (outside Kobe) is dead.

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    Are we seriously comparing George Hill to Derrick Rose?

    Oh wait....ceperez thread. Nevermind.
    And yet this thread will be up to six pages by tomorrow. Proof positive that you guys are a bunch of goons.

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    Saying Hill > Parker is one thing, but saying Hill > Rose is even worse. Hill is a beast and he has the potential to be great, but let's apply the brakes a bit.
    What?! Parker and Rose are pretty even. Not similar, but even. Parker is a winner with three les and a finals MVP . . . so, edge Parker.

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    oh god

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    Saying Hill > Parker is one thing, but saying Hill > Rose is even worse.



    oh, my god, it's getting worse everyday it seems.

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    oh, my god, it's getting worse everyday it seems.
    It's out of control. These are the same posters that will start a "Hill is overrated" thread as soon as he has a rough game.

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