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    Rising above the Fray spursncowboys's Avatar
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    One change to the bill strengthens restrictions against using race or ethnicity as the basis for questioning and inserts those same restrictions in other parts of the law.

    "These new statements make it crystal clear and undeniable that racial profiling is illegal, and will not be tolerated in Arizona," she said in a statement.

    Changes to the bill language will actually remove the word "solely" from the sentence, "The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin."

    Another change replaces the phrase "lawful contact" with "lawful stop, detention or arrest" to apparently clarify that officers don't need to question a victim or witness about their legal status.

    A third change specifies that police contact over violations for local civil ordinances can trigger questioning on immigration status.

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    Weak. They write a nasty law, and then back down to soften it. It will still be challenged in the courts.

    vindictive hypocrits

    Meanwhile, some right-wing Repg bimbo next door in Nevada, leading Harry Read by 10%, is proposing that people obtain reduction in health care costs by bartering, eg chickens, with their doctors.

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    haven't read the new changes, so i'm unsure about how to feel about this.

    but if they can see they made a mistake in the original law, why wouldn't they just scrap the whole thing?

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    Now they won't investigate "solely" on race, so come up with some bull reason. Reasonable su ion will now be: "he spit on the sidewalk, and he was a brownie."


    I think a lawful stop/detention can be construed as contact with an individual to gain information on a crime that has (or is taking) taken place. IOW--I think an officer can lawfully detain a person as a witness. Witnesses in some cases are victims. You do the math.

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    1 out every 7 people in state jails are illegals in AZ. 1 out of every 5 in county jails are illegal in AZ.

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    The INS squeezes in California, so they come to Arizona to cross...duh!

    The answer here ain't laying mines in civilian areas either - are you nuts?

    The real answer here is obviously to work with Mexican officials to defeat the drug cartels, strengthen the Mexican economy and improve the welfare of its workers so that Mexican immigrants don't want (or need) to come here...you know, like we are trying unsuccessfully to do thousands of miles from here in Iraq and Afghanistan...

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    If the changes are those suggested within the OP, it still doesn't say what will be the basis for questioning. It specifically admonishes racial profiling, but that means nothing if it remains so vague about how it will be enforced and how questioning will be determined. Lawful stop... well, that means pretty much anything, doesn't it? And even with a lawful stop, if I, as a white girl, am lawfully stopped, I feel relatively confident the citizenship questions wouldn't be asked.

    Changes to the bill language will actually remove the word "solely" from the sentence, "The attorney general or county attorney shall not investigate complaints that are based solely on race, color or national origin."
    Stupid. How/why would the attorney general possibly ignore complaints of legal citizenship that weren't based on national origin? Citizenship violations can't be based on anything else.

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    would not have to worry about the law if the president had enough GUTS to sh00t the ones crossing. they kil a few people. That will stop them from crossing the onese that just want out of mexico. the bad ones will try to cross and get what is coming to them. break the law. pay! do not worry about having the usa pay for their babies born in the usa.

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    would not have to worry about the law if the president had enough GUTS to sh00t the ones crossing. they kil a few people. That will stop them from crossing the onese that just want out of mexico. the bad ones will try to cross and get what is coming to them. break the law. pay! do not worry about having the usa pay for their babies born in the usa.
    Just like what we are doing with the terrorists. After we shoot them, we give them free health care to heal them up.

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