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  1. 05-02-2010 #1
    TampaDude
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    Much has been made of Phil Jackson's 45-0 record in the playoffs when his team wins Game 1. At first, that sounds incredible, but when you realize his playoff runs have been with the Jordan Bulls and the Kobe/Shaq and Kobe/Gasol Lakers, who usually had a top seed and home court advantage, it just makes sense. I wonder what PJ's playoff record is when his team LOSES Game 1.
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    They won't make the finals this year
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  3. 05-02-2010 #3
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    It's just like the whole thing in 2006, "Phil Jackson has never lost in the first round!" as if the huge talent drop off the 2006 Lakers had compared to the other teams he's coached didn't matter.
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  4. 05-02-2010 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    Much has been made of Phil Jackson's 45-0 record in the playoffs when his team wins Game 1. At first, that sounds incredible, but when you realize his playoff runs have been with the Jordan Bulls and the Kobe/Shaq and Kobe/Gasol Lakers, who usually had a top seed and home court advantage, it just makes sense. I wonder what PJ's playoff record is when his team LOSES Game 1.
    7-8

    1990 ECF: Bulls/Pistons: L
    1991 Finals: Bulls/Lakers: W
    1992 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1993 ECF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1994 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: L
    1995 ECSF: Bulls/Magic: L
    1998 Finals: Bulls/Jazz: W
    2001 Finals: Lakers/Sixers: W
    2003 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: L
    2004 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: W
    2004 Finals: Lakers/Pistons: L
    2006 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2007 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2008 Finals: Lakers/Celtics: L
    2009 WCSF: Lakers/Rockets: W
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  5. 05-02-2010 #5
    TampaDude
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    7-8

    1990 ECF: Bulls/Pistons: L
    1991 Finals: Bulls/Lakers: W
    1992 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1993 ECF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1994 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: L
    1995 ECSF: Bulls/Magic: L
    1998 Finals: Bulls/Jazz: W
    2001 Finals: Lakers/Sixers: W
    2003 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: L
    2004 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: W*
    2004 Finals: Lakers/Pistons: L
    2006 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2007 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2008 Finals: Lakers/Celtics: L**
    2009 WCSF: Lakers/Rockets: W
    * Assraped by Pistons

    ** Assraped by Celtics

    Thanks for researching that.
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  6. 05-02-2010 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    At first, that sounds incredible, but when you realize his playoff runs have been with the Jordan Bulls and the Kobe/Shaq and Kobe/Gasol Lakers, who usually had a top seed and home court advantage, it just makes sense.
    Well, yes...PJ's teams are typically the best/most dominate in the league, that accounts for his astonishing record. Is there another explanation?
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  7. 05-02-2010 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    * .4 (replay shows the shot should not have counted)

    Thanks for researching that.
    huh? they looked at replays
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    * .4 (replay shows the shot should not have counted)

    Thanks for researching that.
    As an unbiased fan it looked good. They did look at replays after the shot too and still ruled it good.
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  9. 05-02-2010 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    7-8

    1990 ECF: Bulls/Pistons: L
    1991 Finals: Bulls/Lakers: W
    1992 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1993 ECF: Bulls/Knicks: W
    1994 ECSF: Bulls/Knicks: L
    1995 ECSF: Bulls/Magic: L
    1998 Finals: Bulls/Jazz: W
    2001 Finals: Lakers/Sixers: W
    2003 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: L
    2004 WCSF: Lakers/Spurs: W
    2004 Finals: Lakers/Pistons: L
    2006 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2007 WCQF: Lakers/Suns: L
    2008 Finals: Lakers/Celtics: L
    2009 WCSF: Lakers/Rockets: W
    Thats not too bad actually. I think on average 70% of teams lose when they lose game 1. Phil Jackson is only losing about 50% of the time.

    But of course he has had 3 of the greatest players in NBA History, but it still takes some coaching ability to lead those huge egos.
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  10. 05-02-2010 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Mbenga
    huh? they looked at replays
    The replay was ambiguous at best. Didn't matter in the end, though...the Lakers got assraped by Detroit in the Finals. I don't know if the Spurs could've beaten the Pistons that year. I think we would've lost that series in 6 games.
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  11. 05-02-2010 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by himat
    As an unbiased fan it looked good. They did look at replays after the shot too and still ruled it good.
    Clock started late. Fix. Stern. Jew $$$.
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  12. 05-02-2010 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by himat
    Thats not too bad actually. I think on average 70% of teams lose when they lose game 1. Phil Jackson is only losing about 50% of the time.

    But of course he has had 3 of the greatest players in NBA History, but it still takes some coaching ability to lead those huge egos.
    PJ is living proof that sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
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  13. 05-02-2010 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Bringdown
    Well, yes...PJ's teams are typically the best/most dominate in the league, that accounts for his astonishing record. Is there another explanation?
    Yeah, the NBA is rigged.
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  14. 05-02-2010 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
    It's just like the whole thing in 2006, "Phil Jackson has never lost in the first round!" as if the huge talent drop off the 2006 Lakers had compared to the other teams he's coached didn't matter.
    Well, he didn't win game 1 so that doesn't count.
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  15. 05-02-2010 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by himat
    Thats not too bad actually. I think on average 70% of teams lose when they lose game 1. Phil Jackson is only losing about 50% of the time.

    But of course he has had 3 of the greatest players in NBA History, but it still takes some coaching ability to lead those huge egos.
    Oh yeah, batting close to .500 when down a game in a series is pretty outstanding. Popovich has actually done better down 0-1 though, at 6-6.

    1998 Spurs-Jazz: Lost series
    2000 Spurs-Suns: Lost series
    2001 Spurs-Lakers: Lost series
    2002 Spurs-Lakers: Lost series
    2003 Spurs-Suns: Won series
    2003 Spurs-Mavs: Won series
    2005 Spurs-Nuggets: Won series
    2007 Spurs-Nuggets: Won series
    2008 Spurs-Hornets: Won series
    2008 Spurs-Lakers: Lost series
    2009 Spurs-Mavs: Lost series
    2010 Spurs-Mavs: Won series
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    PJ is living proof that sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
    I strongly disagree with that. The Lakers were like the Denver Nuggets before Jackson took over in 99-00. Tons of talent, but dumb as rocks and all looking like they were out for self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    I strongly disagree with that. The Lakers were like the Denver Nuggets before Jackson took over in 99-00. Tons of talent, but dumb as rocks and all looking like they were out for self.
    Some of them are still as dumb as rocks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Mbenga
    huh? they looked at replays

    dude no disrespect son but that chic in your sig would look awesome with all over her face...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolaid_Man
    dude no disrespect son but that chic in your sig would look awesome with all over her face...
    Bukkake on Line 1...it's for you, !!!
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  20. 05-02-2010 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaDude
    Clock started late. Fix. Stern. Jew $$$.
    its your HCA. fire the man responsible
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  21. 05-04-2010 #21
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    Wow, 45-0. It ain't O & 42, but, it's close.

    tee, hee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    Actually, it's 46-0, well it, 47-0.
    Probably so...
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  23. 05-04-2010 #23
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    Christ, Tampa, yer lucky you were losing to the Suns last night instead of Phil and that record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    Christ, Tampa, yer lucky you were losing to the Suns last night instead of Phil and that record.
    Don't worry...that's probably coming soon enough...
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    I can't wait to beat these pooh punchers.
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