What reaction was he looking for here? I'm not sure what normal person wouldn't get pissed off if asked if his mother is a pros ute.
Even Tebow might have got pissed since his mom's supposedly a virgin.
so to you, there is no question that is off limits.
What reaction was he looking for here? I'm not sure what normal person wouldn't get pissed off if asked if his mother is a pros ute.
Even Tebow might have got pissed since his mom's supposedly a virgin.
boom, kroasted
Hey, at least they won the superbowl the year prior.
What the do you care, american football fan from ing Macedonia?
, naldo Blowmen is still experiencing the 7 win ecstasy from last year. Great season for Dolphins fans.
They employ Ricky because he's a good running back. Let's not pretend they employ him because of some life experience he had.
Cardinals have a much better future than the Dolphins. I hope giving Karlos Dansby Ray Lewis money works out well for you. After a rebuilding year when they come to the realization Leinart has no future in the NFL, the Cardinals will be good again. When the NFL gets a salary cap again, the Dolphins are ed.
Usually people wait till the team they root for has an established player before using him in an argument about who's superior.
lol chad henne
what's right with Henne?
hm. good point.
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Yes I'm dead serious, you're not thinking about what's going to happen when the NFL gets a salary cap again. Arizona used to capless year to get rid of their bad contracts and set themselves up with future financial flexibility to make roster improvements when there is a salary cap, meanwhile Miami used to capless year to overpay players that woudln't have gotten close to that money any other year. If we wanna compare positions though
Arizona QB << Miami QB (keep in mind though that's not Arizona's longterm plan at QB)
Arizona RB = Miami RB (when healthy Ronnie Brown is a beast but he's got health concerns. Beanie Wells finished last year strong and shows top 5 RB potential)
Arizona WR > Miami WR (Fitzgerald > Marshall, Breaston > Bess)
Arizona O-line = Miami O-line (Miami has more talent on their line, but Arizona has the best O-line coach in the NFL and now has a veteran presence in Faneca Miami lacks)
Who gives a about fullback
Arizona D-line >>> Miami D-line (Calais Campbell, Dan Williams and Dockett is basically the perfect 3-4 D-line, meanwhile Miami still has several question marks there)
Arizona LBs = Miami LBs (both teams have 1 proven player and a bunch of young players at LB, it's impossible to tell which team has better LB's, so it's a push)
Arizona secondary > Miami secondary (Adrian Wilson, Kerry Rhodes and DRC would all be the best defensive back on Miami)
That factored in with all the cap room AZ will have a year from now
Arizona's future > Miami's future
Rofl maybe I was wrong saying Henne is that much better than Leinart, I just assumed he put up good numbers last year given how much Balkman likes to chug his glug, but he had 12 picks and 14 interceptions, wtf is so good about that![]()
This has kind of been my point the last few months about Dolphins and Jets...people assume these teams are serious contenders. Why? because they have QB's who were selected high in the draft? Just because they are young doesnt guarantee they improve...Sanchez and Henne both sucked last year IMO.
At least Sanchez has proven that he can be the starting QB on a team that gets to the AFC championship game and not things up beforehand, Chad Henne can't even say that much.
, the one year Leinart started most of Arizona's games at QB, he put up nearly identical numbers to Henne last year, and that was his rookie year with Denny Green, maybe the worst offensive line in the NFL, and Fitz playing through a hamstring injury most of the season. Leinart = Chad Henne
I know its strange if you would ask that question just like that, out of nowhere. But, it is not strange if that excerpt i posted above, really happened. If it was said/asked in that context, then I dont see a problem.
But its the question if that excerpt/dialogue happened or not.
Ronnie Brown has had a season ending injury 2 of the last 3 years. Either way I'll give it to you because of depth behind Brown and how good he is when healthy, but Wells has potential to be one of the best backs in the NFL.
Based on what? Matt Leinart's rookie season is nearly identical to Chad Henne's sop re season. Neither one has done anything to put himself past the other.
Both lines are inconsistent and middle of the pack. Arizona's line gets in trouble when the play calling gets too pass happy and the DE's don't have to play the run, Miami gets in trouble when the other team stacks the box against them. Neither line has given any reason why it's better than the other line.
God this reeks of homerism and ignorance. Darnell Dockett made his 2nd pro bowl last year after managing to get 7 sacks and 51 tackles and basically anchoring a defense that got the 6th most sacks last year. Given the fact there's not a single pro bowl birth on Miami's D-line, he's by far better than any of them.
Raving about the 65 tackle, 7 sack breakout year Randy Starks had right after you described Campbell as "decent" makes you look particularily re ed. Why does it make you look re ed you ask? Well, lets start with the fact Starks had 56 tackles, not 65. More importantly, it's probably because of the fact that Campbell, the player you refered to as "decent", had a nearly identical season with 7 sacks and 46 tackles. Other than 7 solo tackles and 3 assisted tackles, the only difference is Starks needed 6 seasons in the NFL to attain that "breakout year" as you so kindly put it. Campbell's nearly identical "decent year" came in only his 2nd season and 1st season as starter. So, I guess you could say Starks = Campbell, but given Campbell's potential and room for growth, it's a safe bet most GM's would take him over Starks.
Dan Williams was thought of by some to be a top 10 prospect and has the size, athleticism and build to be a great 3-4 NT. Considering that, and the fact Miami only took Odrick becaus Arizona took Williams two picks in front of Miami when they wanted him all along, anyone with an unbiased opinion would agree Williams is better than Odrick. It's pretty impossible to make a legitimate argument that Miami's D-line is better than Arizona's.
Rhodes had a bad year adjusting to Rex Ryan's system. When he was playing in Mangini's system he was 2nd team all NFL one year. He doesn't suck because he had 1 bad year in a system after being a good (not great, but good) safety the 4 previous years.
I'll give you the fact Davis and Smith are a good young duo at corner, but neither one of them is as good as Cromartie. Yeah the Cardinals traded McFadden but he blew, Greg Toler a rookie last year came on late and was the one bright spot during the Saints game. He's supposedly wowing coaches in training camp. There's a reason why the best safeties in the NFL rarely have huge tackle numbers. Tackles are a terrible way to measure how good a safety is. Yeah, Yeremiah Bell and Gibril Wilson both had tons of tackles. You know why? Because Miami's front seven was too ty to stop the offense without safety help. When the safeties are the two leading tacklers on a defense, it's not a testimate to how good the safeties are, it's a testimate to how bad the defense is. I'm sure Kerry Rhodes will have more tackles than last year because the Jets don't let nearly as many plays get to the secondary as the Cardinals do. Arizona's secondary > Miami's, not by much, but the fact Cromartie and Wilson are way better than anyone in Miami's secondary tips the scale.
Look at how bad Leinart's O-line was his rookie year. He had absolutely no running game to take pressure off him, plus the coaching staff was bad beyond belief. Yeah Chad Henne lacked receiving weapons but he had Miami's running threat to help him and an all pro left tackle to protect his blind side.
That's got nothing to do with your blatantly ignorant comment that he had a breakout year while Campbell is just "decent" after putting up almost identical numbers in his 1st season as a starter.
Well maybe they thought he would be available at #28, there were countless sources saying the Dolphins were interested in Williams as a way to fill their void at nose tackle. You're not gonna find too many experts who had Odrick ranked ahead of Williams on their draft board.
All this proves is that AZ's D-line is undeniably better than Miami's. For arguments sake I'll just say Odrick's impact cancels out Williams' impact even though most think Williams is a better prospect. The "average value" stat on pro-football-reference.com tells the story. Last year, Dockett had a value of 13, Campbell had a value of 8, while Starks had a value 7 and Langford had a value of 5. I admitted I was stretching saying AZ = Miami at RB, admit you were completely wrong saying Miami has a better D-line than Arizona.
He was lost in Ryan's scheme, plain and simple. Before Ryan he was a good safety. It's a mystery how he does on Arizona but one bad season doesn't completely negate a several year long good career. I'm not worried about the fact he wasn't able to be Rex Ryan's new Ed Reed. Neither Sean Smith or Vontae Davis are proven at all, they're both two young corners who have all the physical tools but have a lot to learn.
OK thanks for proving my point. Bell didn't play like a defensive back, he played up front because the other 7 needed his help making tackles. Because they had to have a safety play in the box, it in turn hurt their pass D.
I'll tell you what else Wilson had this year:
1 more first team all pro selection
1 more probowl birth that wasn't contingent on being a replacement
Are you seriously trying to compare a safety who has never sniffed a probowl with 4 career interceptions to a 3 time probowler who is 1 of only 10 players ever with 20 career picks and 20 career sacks? It's beyond hilarious to say you aren't being a homer with Bell, I don't even think Bell's mother thinks he belongs anywhere near the tier Wilson is on.
So he was a good linebacker last year. OK. The fact they needed a safety to play up in the box to help against the run indirectly indicates their front 7 needed help.
Wilson and Rhodes have a combined 38 career picks. Chris Clemons and Yeremiah Bell have a combined 4 career interceptions. Adrian Wilson might be a future HOFer and Yeremiah Bell is a safety who's job is to play linebacker. Kerry Rhodes is someone coming off a bad year who used to play at a pro bowl level, and Chris Clemons is an unproven 5th rounder. The Cardinals have BY FAR better safeties.
As long as it's established there isn't much of a difference at O-line.
Why?
I am curious.
IMO, "mother" and "pros ute" should never be in the same sentence. It can only be insulting.
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