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    Isn't it Dr. Gonzo who literally has to eat if the Spurs get to the WCF?
    I hope this is put on YouTube.

    The Spurs actually got themselves into a great position as far as the draft goes. They've got a relatively low pick with a chance to make a deep playoff run. Some lottery level pick might end up falling to them anyway and they are guaranteed at least two more home games for revenue. That's much better than a 1% shot at the lottery, easily.

    As for the OP, did anyone imagine the Spurs doing after the all-star break? Pop had chosen a rotation that featured the Centerpiece and Bonner starters. That would have gotten the Spurs swept. Manu not regaining his pre-injury form would have doomed the Spurs anyway. I find it hard to believe anyone could have realistically predicted so many things to fall into play like they did. If you believed, it was blind faith and good for you if you did.

    I thought the Spurs were doomed in the first round (if they made it) after watching them have to hack-a-Ben a lottery bound Pistons team just to get the game into OT. No defense, TD struggling, horrible rotations, etc. You can still cheer for the team and watch all the games even if you think they won't do in the post season. Many of us will be doing so once Timmy hangs it up.

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    i think this is really lame. instead of just calling these people out, what needs to be done is we need to find out the locations of those who lost hope and make them "sleep with the fishes."

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    A small chance at a top 3 pick is better than no chance and a pick at 20 and getting beat by the lakers.
    Top 3?! You're out of your mind. You're also wrong. The revenue from a deep playoff run is more important to Peter Holt than moving up a couple of spots in the draft.

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    OP forgot to post up why he's a better fan than everyone else. Can't have a "I have 12 posts and you guys all suck" thread without it. Got a picture of your dad's season tickets or of your cousin holding a championship ring? That should do it.

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    Don't tell me about math and %s. I have an engineerinbg degree so I have taken lots of math. A small chance at a top 3 pick is better than no chance and a pick at 20 and getting beat by the lakers.

    I have already thought about the %s and still would have rather been in the lottery because I do not believe the spurs will get past the lakers this year.


    The higher the draft pick the better the chance to get an impact player which is better for next years team and the future. The spurs need a couple of solid contributers on the fontline and a high draft pick works to get one, the rest of the team is stacked with talent.
    Let's say the Spurs were to get the first pick in the draft. Who would you have them take that would be an automatic solid front line contributor? Oden, Thabeet, Kwame Brown? The chances of them coming away with a NBA ready big man that would immediately have a big impact might be smaller than the chance of them getting the number one pick.

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    Let's say the Spurs were to get the first pick in the draft. Who would you have them take that would be an automatic solid front line contributor? Oden, Thabeet, Kwame Brown? The chances of them coming away with a NBA ready big man that would immediately have a big impact might be smaller than the chance of them getting the number one pick.
    He said "impact player," not "big." Given Splitter really does appear to be on his way in, and we have Dice, Tim, and Blair on the books for 1 year minimum, we'd have the luxury on focusing on finding a talented 2-3 or 3-4, of whom there are more to choose.

    I have to admit I was on-board with accepting our squad was not ready for genuine contention and vying for the lottery, but am pleasantly surprised so far. That said, Phoenix will be tougher than Dallas, and the Lakers may be tougher, still.

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    It's only May!

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    May 4, 2003. Remember the date?

    Tomorrow will mark the 7th anniversary of the last game played by the Portland Trail Blazers in the month of May.

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    ... it...I don't mind being called a homer..it is what I am...

    but I never meant to imply that I was squeaky clean---I was just wondering what the response would be...I was a bit annoyed at Pop myself----but I always said---

    Pop and the spurs should be judged at the end of the season---and NOT written off....

    but yeah...I am a homer

    why is that bad---????---I don't get it...

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    A homer cannot be taken seriously because he only sees what he wants to see.

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    A homer cannot be taken seriously because he only sees what he wants to see.
    is this your definition....

    I thought a homer was someone who believed---regardless...

    if I am a homer---what does that make you?

    someone who calls himself a spurs fan---but has more belief in the lakers????

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    is this your definition....

    I thought a homer was someone who believed---regardless...

    if I am a homer---what does that make you?

    someone who calls himself a spurs fan---but has more belief in the lakers????
    The Lakers are the better team. A homer can't admit that.

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    The Lakers are the better team. A homer can't admit that.

    maybe last year---when the spurs did not have a complete team---the lakers were a better team...

    this year if they meet and both teams are healthy---THEN we will know who the better team is....but YOU ALREADY have that laker belief---BEFORE ---they even play---yet you call me a homer....



    ummm...ok

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    maybe last year---when the spurs did not have a complete team---the lakers were a better team...

    this year if they meet and both teams are healthy---THEN we will know who the better team is....but YOU ALREADY have that laker belief---BEFORE ---they even play---yet you call me a homer....



    ummm...ok
    Thats a homer response.

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    A pick at 13 or 14 is better than losing to the lakers in the WCF. Those 6 slots higher could make a big difference in getting an impact center or other player who can come in next year.

    Its about building a roster that has enough talent to be a serious contender and that will be next year not being a middle of the pack playoff team this year still not as good as the lakers.

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    A pick at 13 or 14 is better than losing to the lakers in the WCF. Those 6 slots higher could make a big difference in getting an impact center or other player who can come in next year.
    I doubt there's anyone available in the draft to counter what the Lakers got, even if we were to get a top 3 pick.

    The Gasol trade changed everything, it allowed the Lakers to leapfrog the NBA's compe ion dynamics for years to come.

    Unless the Spurs or anyone else can get a player as perfectly matched, versatile and highly-skilled as Gasol for FREE, without giving up anything or going through the lottery, I doubt anyone can catch up. It doesn't mean we shouldn't hope or try, but just look how utterly predictable these playoffs have become.

    And don't think the Lakers won't improve in the offseason. Look how they're rolling now, even with Derek Fisher as their point guard.

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    I doubt there's anyone available in the draft to counter what the Lakers got, even if we were to get a top 3 pick.

    The Gasol trade changed everything, it allowed the Lakers to leapfrog the NBA's compe ion dynamics for years to come.

    Unless the Spurs or anyone else can get a player as perfectly matched, versatile and highly-skilled as Gasol for FREE, without giving up anything or going through the lottery, I doubt anyone can catch up. It doesn't mean we shouldn't hope or try, but just look how utterly predictable these playoffs have become.

    And don't think the Lakers won't improve in the offseason. Look how they're rolling now, even with Derek Fisher as their point guard.
    I agree the Gasol trade pushed the lakers to the top but they can be beaten in the next year or two depending on what the spurs or another team does to improve their team.

    I don't have too much faith in the Spurs front office to get it done by what I have seen from them. the spurs need help on the frontline and the spurs year after year can't improve in that area instead relying on over the hill type players.
    Last edited by rascal; 05-05-2010 at 09:16 AM.

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    Jerry West.....mastermind behind the Gasol trade....wonder what he was thinking?

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    I don't have too much faith in the Spurs front office to get it done by what I have seen from them. the spurs need help on the frontline and the spurs year after year can't improve in that area instead relying on over the hill type players.
    Every team needs help on the frontline. That's what makes the Gasol gift so devastating.

    However, the Spurs did have an excellent opportunity with Scola. And the Kurt Thomas years were lost years.

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    Come draft day I'd rather the spurs have the 14th pick than the 20th. There are a couple of good centers projected to be going from 14 to 19 that the spurs could have a shot at with the 14th pick.

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    Come draft day I'd rather the spurs have the 14th pick than the 20th. There are a couple of good centers projected to be going from 14 to 19 that the spurs could have a shot at with the 14th pick.
    but then...what will happen next season---if the spurs don't look as good as your favorite team---the lakers---

    will you be saying that the spurs should just tank again and wait for NEXT season--to get the 9th pick---instead of the 17th or 18th????

    and the next season?
    and the next???

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    just wondering...where are the geniuses...

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    just wondering...where are the geniuses...
    Bump

    Got a little too excited about a first round win.

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    Got a little too excited about a first round win.
    It's funny...this thread was all about berating fans for giving up on le hopes...yet he has basically a concession speech to the Suns on the front page.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153746

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    It's funny...this thread was all about berating fans for giving up on le hopes...yet he has basically a concession speech to the Suns on the front page.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153746
    It took an 0-3 hole to finally see what many of us saw months ago.

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