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Where'd you go buddy? If you read these responses it seems my opinion was the unanimous decision...
Manu was our best player tonight. He was our higher scorer, our higher assister and our best defender by a mile. He left the game tied in the third quarter and came back with a 10 pts deficit. Re-watch the game.
Where'd you go buddy? If you read these responses it seems my opinion was the unanimous decision...
This is the Manu we know. You gotta take in the good with the bad. A guy with Manu in his avatar should know that.
Where the have you been??
THREAD FAIL FOR SURE.
We're playing the Suns. You're not going to hold this teamto under 90 points on the road, period. He makes a couple of those shots, then it opens the game for everybody. Were you ing when he took and made that 3 in transition that gave us a 3 point lead?
They're momentum swings. Sometimes they go in and sometimes they don't. But the reality is that Manu is more than willing to pass to the hot hand. Look at Hill in the previous series for an example.
haha, college....Great thread after being lost for two years . . .
and this was probably not the smartest decision, I still have 5 more final exams this week and the venting of tonight will bite me in the ass tomorrow.
I did not like the transition three, no...sure it paid off but it's simply not the smartest thing to do in a 3 on 1 break with NASH as the last defense, especially considering how much better manu is at attacking than shooting from outside. Yet I understand your point, sure they are momentum swings but we can't play that game with the suns. They go on far more runs and my opinion is we need to be as efficient on offense as possible, which in turn also helps our defense and limits Suns transition.
He is still the s and the Phoenix Suns shall be forced to suckle in game 2
I'm not going to tell you he *never* takes a bad shot or anything like that. That said, I didn't have much problems with what he took tonight. I recall at least two being basically with the shot clock runnin out.
Manu is more adept at driving in the 4th quarter. He obviously doesn't have the stamina to keep that going all game long for an entire series.
9 threes is just too many. Yeah, I would rather him save some of those drives for the 2nd half. That's another reason why Manu has always been a better option off the bench and Tony being the starter.
Eh, no. That's the shot you want to take when RJ is running with you and the last defender is indeed Nash. If it's a miss, odds are the other Spur will get the putback. It's just one play though. In order to open up the paint for Tony, Tim and Manu somebody will have to make shots from outside. Considering Hill was benched for a while, we didn't have many options left.
Seriously, what game were watching those saying, not only that Manu wasn't our best player, but that he played badly?
He was 3 of 7 untill he had to take a bad positioned with the clock running down and another fade away three when the game was basically out of reach and we had no option but to take threes.
Well, Hill was in foul trouble, Bonner played limited minutes and Mason was basically either covered or clanking everything. Like I said, when you're trying to come back and the other team is hitting from outside, somebody has to take the outside shot for us. RJ was also passive as all night. He wouldn't even take Ill-advised jumpers. I can't reproach anything from the big 3 tonight. Manu with the threes, Duncan with the missed free throws, Tony with an early airball. It's nitpicking when the biggest problem is that nobody else showed up.
Definitely agree. I never said Manu played a bad game. He played very well just wish he wouldn't have settled for so many 3's. That's all. Going to need Hill,RJ,Dice to play better for us to win. Same thing happened against Dallas. I expect those guys to answer the call much like they did last series.
I honestly don't see Phoenix winning a game on our court. Especially the way we have been playing at home. We just need to steal game 2 and even if we don't I would fully expect us to go back to phoenix tied up for a big game 5.
I wouldn't count on the put back, it's a stretch saying "odds are the other spur will get the putback"
I have no problem with outside shots, of course we need, and we need to make them at a higher percentage and that is the problem... take them off a pick or some way when you are open, but Manu is not the typical pull up in your face player. Sure he makes some in people's faces, but he is not Ray Allen, McGrady of past, or Kobe when it comes to rising up over someone from the perimeter...he jumps about an inch on his threes....don't you notice how many three's manu misses way short or air ball...his shot form simple isn't one with much strength. I just don't like those forced threes with tons of time on the clock...move the ball and yourself and find a better shot, or jack a three and dig a deeper hole.
I understand with the higher risk there can be high reward...but it's not reliable.
manu was fine. the only problem that i see is that i don't know who is going to make some clutch threes when needed at the very late of the game now ?
i'm just not confident when manu makes a clutch jump shoot. His FG % in those situations is just really really bad.
Hill is still young. and TP, who is by far our clutchest jump shooter, isn't good at 3. Bonner and Mason sucks when it counts in PO.
Horry, Barry, Bowen, Finley were all able to make clutch 3's in the past.
PS: i know tim made one against the suns in PO, but i guess you can't consider it a perenial option.
Who will make them usually... ? perhaps George Hill, but tonight he sucked.
And@ Parker being our clutchest jump shooter
His field goal % in last shot situation is low (like from every other player in the NBA) but he is a pretty solid clutch shooter, with the game close in the final minutes of the 4th quarter.
Manu is the main reason the Spurs were able to make two comebacks.
i agree that we don't have many clutch 3 pts shooters, so manu and hill are probably the best solution.Who will make them usually... ? perhaps George Hill, but tonight he sucked.
And
as for TP: our best jump shooter: no. our best clutch jump shooter:yes and that's not even close
indeed, we don't have many 2 pts jump shooters on that team. It helps TP's game a lot and that would really made manu unguardable if he took and made some of them.
no. his FG % in those situations, like every stats show (clutch stats from espn, 82games.com, last shot stats from espn) is rather low compared to others players (including tim and tony).
Manu is a clutch driver to the rim, not a clutch jump shooter.
it's pretty clear manu wasn't the problem tonight. he was doing fine, playing at a good level.
Well, a couple of seasons ago that same stats showed that Manu was the clutchest player in the NBA. I don't care what the stats say, if the game is close late in the game and Manu takes a well positioned three I'm confident.
i was more confident with Horry, Barry, Finley or Bowen when we needed a late three. It helped us so many times in PO to have those catch and shoot killers from behind the line.
now, manu and hill are probably our best solutions in that area.
While it's true that Manu DID take some ill-advised 3's, he was stellar on both ends of the court. Rebounding, steals, creating shots for others and just wreaking his usual havoc on the Suns. He was a terror on the defensive end too by taking charges, swiping at balls, etc. Even with the ill-timed shots, he still managed to play a fantastic game.
If only the entire team played with the balls and sense of urgency he brings every night....
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