agree that the team should look to involve RJ more in the 1st Q.
and while manu should have closed out better on that jrich 3, he isnt getting any credit for the steals and charges he took, manu got the team lots of extra possessions with his D.
mason and bonner shouldnt play any more minutes for the rest of the year, i cant believe two guys playing for contracts can be so bad
I know. And your point?
It's 1 game, get over it. Hill will be back for Game 2. If he plays like in the first few minutes, you immediately yank him for Parker and it's done. Is it that big of a deal of who gets the le "Starter"? If Hill plays bad first 2-3 minutes you pull him out and that's it.
On the plus side for this game, I think that's the best that the Spurs have ever defended the Nash/Amare PnR (except for when George got caught on the screen and let Nash waltz in for a layup). If they can keep defending that well, along with rotating better to shooters and securing the defensive rebound, we'll be fine.
Suns did a decent enough job of defending the Spurs in the half court, but they got to take away those transition layups for Ginobili and Parker.
AND they need to keep them off the free throw line. Game 2 is gonna be brutal for em.
Timvp is spot on
We can beat them; let's just hope Pop will make the adjustments mentioned by Timvp
My point is that Nash scorched the kid. Tony just matches up better with him and has a lot more experience defending him.
TP, Manu, and Tim did a good job to bring us back in the game. But the suns' shooters were hot. And we had some defensive breakdowns, especially by Manu on Jrich.
Exactly
Hill does have good defensive skills, but he is struggling against most elite PG's.
Biut that's normal, since it's his 2nd season
not worried at all. 1st half seems spurs were still in vs. maverick mode. It took 1 half to transform to a team that could compete vs. Suns. 2nd half was typical Spurs vs. Suns toe to toe. One entire game of this and I like the Spurs chances.
Not to mention I beleive the pain is coming in game 2. flagrants and tough fouls coming up for both sides. That would benefit the Spurs even more.
So you give him the starting job against Nash despite an awful game in name of what ? continuity I guess. Nevertheless if he failed the first minutes you bench him. What is your logic ?
I realize you always have to be a sarcastic ass, but you do know that Parker isn't even timvp's second or third favorite player on the Spurs, right?
Im not Worried At all..... This Game 1 Reminded Me of Game 1 of the Dallas series....... Nash Has A Great Shooting Game(Just Like Nowitzki)........ Richardson explodes(Kinda Like Butler in Game 1)......We Missed A Ton Of free Throws..... Hill And Jefferson did not play well at all..... Duncan Was Awful until That 4th quarter run..... Yet with all that Goin on, we still had A Opportunity to win Game 1...... With Pop making changes and Adjustments, I expect A Better game 2(Just Like in The Dallas Series)...... It Will be 1 to 1 goin Back to San Antonio....
And it's not just one game. Hill hasn't shown that he can guard Nash at any point - last year, this year, anytime. He's just not the right type of player for Hill to guard. It's nothing against Hill.
That being said, I'd rather bench RJ and just roll with the Manu/Hill/TP as starters. Everyone keeps harping on the fact that "RJ turns invisible when he's not playing at the same time as Manu" and stuff like that.. well, it seems he's invisible the majority of the time - no matter who is on the court.
So.. since the Spurs aren't going to be able to defend both Nash and JRich anyway, might as well put your best players on the court to start the game (despite being small) and just try to outscore them. Then pray that RJ can produce something off the bench. If Pop manages Manu/Hill/TP's minutes right, then one of them will still always be on the floor to handle the ball.
If I were the Spurs I'd avoid using the Parker Hill back court only cause Phoenix can isolate J-Rich in the post with either one of them for a bad mismatch. That's why perimeter matchups are a problem for both teams this year rather than just the Suns, you could have anyone defend Marion or Bell in the halfcourt and stop them from scoring. Now Parker has to guard someone who is a halfcourt scoring threat.
One thing the Spurs need to do is have Jefferson guard someone worthwhile. He's not gonna be needed for much offense in this series, they should use him to take defensive pressure off Manu/Parker. At the very least, they should have RJ guard J-Rich and Manu guard Hill. Manu gets an easier assignment, and RJ has the size and speed to match J-Rich.
Yeah, in a dream world RJ would actually participate defensively and do things like rebound.
we've got an underperforming 20 mil player, and an underperforming 15 mil player. Not to mention several bench players who make a few mill and yet do absolutely nothing.
not adding another wing man in the trade deadline come back to hunt us, Pop and stuff laid back and do nothing, that was mistake, we barely have bench now!
Seems to me that when the Spurs went out their way to get Jefferson more involved in the Mavs series, good things happened.
A TP to RJ pass is a rare event, that's a problem.
Suns got to feel great about their chances when the look over at our bench and see that Bowen and Horry aren't there anymore.
I'm not feeling very optimistic even though we made the game close a couple of times. Phoenix stiff armed us and were control from tip off to closing buzzer.
Last edited by Capt Bringdown; 05-04-2010 at 10:44 AM.
must be freezing over today. For the 1st time ever, I actually agree with something Doug Collins said.
Jefferson hurts the Spurs' offensive spacing when he positions inside the 3-point line. It makes it easier for his defender to double Tim or another player driving to the bucket. Sabotages our offense when he does that. In years past, we had the threat of Bruce in the corner and that kept the defense honest. Not so when RJ sits inside the 3-point line. I'm not saying he should jack up 3-point bricks all day, but he's gotta draw his defender away so that the defense can't sag so easily.
Would be nice if he could actually hit one of those shots once in a while, but even if he's a statue, he's gotta bring his defender away from the basket.
Spacing out the Suns' defense is key to breaking them down. Always has been. They're a better defensive team with Grant Hill. Can still be broken down easily as a team, but spacing has to be there every time.
I was watching when he pointed it out. One of the most insightful comments I've ever heard stated in the middle of a playoff game.
RJ needs to back up. Even if he's not going to shoot the 3, force the defender to come out to meet you, and drive past him to get penetration into the Suns defense.
TD need to start making some free-throw. Since the beginning of the playoffs he's been down to Shaq's level.
touche
coulda fooled me. He will defend him to the death. He is rarely critical of him, unlike the rest of our guys. And I know he is a fan of Tony getting 18+ Attempts Per, which is beyond questionable. Maybe its a subconscious man crush.I realize you always have to be a sarcastic ass, but you do know that Parker isn't even timvp's second or third favorite player on the Spurs, right?
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