one has to wonder if parker now starts and if so how pop will get fire power off of the bench now. the suns bench will outscore ours if we have just hill and then the sad crew of bonner, boggins and mason and then the rookie, albeit talented, blair.
as a result, i have to wonder if this means manu goes back to being that spark plug.
i was actually thinking about this, and i would not be surprised if the starting line up is
parker
bogans
jefferson
duncan
dice
i would assume that it would either be bogans or mason in instead of manu, and i would choose bogans instead of mason.
and that way manu goes to the bench with hill
I personally like Bogans/Ginobili starting over Jefferson since it's a better defensive lineup against Hill and JRich, but that's just my opinion.
Bogans shouldn't play at all, he doesn't bring anything to the table.
What about
parker
hill
bogans
duncan
dice
and bring manu and Jefferson in a second unit?
personally, I think the starting five should be:
Parker
Hill
Dice
Tim
Bogans
the 2nd unit of RJ, Manu, Blair, Bonner and player x should pound on Phx's 2nd unit.
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No time for experiments now. The only change that should be done is starting Parker instead of Hill. And the only reason for that is because Parker can do a better job of defending Nash + put more pressure attacking the lanes.
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We can shuffle the lineup however we want but the fundamental problem still remains. There need to be more than 7 guys who can contribute on a given night and right now there's just not. You've got the big 3 who produce most nights, the next 4 who are hit or miss, and then there's just nothing after that.
i think hil can guard nash but he just can not pressure him on the offensive side as much. perhaps we will see a more aggressive hill tomorrow if he does get the start.
I'm not opposed to this at all. If manu comes off bench which may be a good idea in this series, his replacement should definitely not be Mason, but rather Hill or Bogans, but knowing how Jefferson does better and prefers playing with Manu on the court, it's worth considering bringing both off the bench.
I think for a lot of reasons it makes sense to try something like this. To start games we really don't need Tony and Manu at the same time, they both have to get there offense going early and when both are on the floor it's almost like a waste because both can create for themselves, especially against Phoenix. Of course throughout the game I want to see a lot of Parker and Manu at the same time, but we might as well start games with at least one of them on the floor at all times throughout the 1st and most of 2nd quarter to keep the offense in flowing.
But we simply can't play a series with only Tim, Manu, Parker, Jefferson, Dice, Hill, Blair, and (sadly) Bonner. We need at least another player into the rotation, and Mason has been just as useless on offense, but Bogans will at least play defense.
that has been our whole season in a nuts . and thus, the degree of uncertainty when it comes to guessing just how far this team can go.
This lineup was starting to play well before Parker broke his hand.
Yep. Sooner or later lack of depth will catch up with you. For all the grief he got, this team could really use Michael Finley right about now.
I have a few concerns with starting both Bogans AND Hill. Firstly, when (if?) the Suns figure out Bogans can't shoot, he'll kill the spacing and we'll see the same thing that happened during the regular season in which defenders weren't even in the same zip code as Bogans.
Secondly, Nash will be able to rest on defense with Bogans in the game. I'd prefer that he is forced to guard TP and hopefully that wears him down enough over the course of the game. The other point is that Hill will be forced to play one of Hill or Richardson on defense. George looked overmatched in the post against both of them. He's had success in the past against 2/3's so perhaps he can improve to an adequate level on Wednesday.
I highly doubt Pop will go without a starter off bench, so I don't think they'll have a starting lineup of TP, Manu, RJ.
of course, it is still very possible hill starts again and parker still comes off the bench. pop may feel that hill is resilient enough to bounce back strongly.
Parker
Ginobili
Jefferson
Mcdyess
Duncan. Make Nash guard Parker as much as possibly. You can't do that with Hill out there and Hill also struggles with Richardson.
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I think Tony needs to start. With Manu being ineffective and struggling with his shooting after breaking his nose I think it would be smart for Tony to start (how many times has he burned Nash) and Manu to go back to the bench. I really think Hill will be back tommorow and he seems to play well with Tony.
We need Manu to start because it gives him more opportunity for rest mid-game.
I dont believe manu will go to the bench now. But it's just a personal opinion. It could happen if Pop wants to bring parker in without hurting georgie's feelings. But it shouldn't matter though.
Here's a crazy idea, Spurs fans! How about we hope for the Spurs to do what every other team in the ing league does and start their best player at each position? I know it's absolutely insane, but you really only need "firepower off the bench" because your starters get your team ten points in the hole to start the quarter. You play your subs in order of who might do well and then you distribute the minutes based on who's playing the best and on matchups. The game really isn't much more complicated than that. Georgie got torched? No problem, let's put Parker in the starting lineup and not create new problems by moving everyone around. Contrary to current belief by some folks, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili can play together.
Excellent post. The entire year the Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-McDyess-Duncan lineup has seemingly been avoided. No more should it be. They're the highest paid players on the team and comprise five of the six best players on the team, yet they can never simultaneously start and rarely play together? No other team does this.
I've even see the Lakers go occasionally to a Odom-Bryant-Artest-Gasol-Bynum lineup. You think they care about a lack of spacing with this group? No. Why? Because it's got so much talent and so many advantages that other teams have to contend with. The Spurs let the opposition off the hook by often adjusting to what they're doing and rarely playing their best players (at least positionally) at once.
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