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Rose is a top 3 point guard in the NBA franchise named Chicago Bulls.
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The quote seems incomplete. Obviously, it has to be
Rose is a top 3 point guard in the NBA franchise named Chicago Bulls.
He listed his top 3 PGs tonight during the Celts/Cavs game. His order:
1) DWill
2) CP3
3) Rose (after a moment to think)
CP3 was in the studio and I thought he was going to tear up.
He is.
LOL pretty funny
Who else is better than Derrick Rose? Rose took a ty team without Gordon or Salmons into the playoffs. His averages in the post season are better than Deron Williams.
27ppg 8apg (Those are superstar numbers.....)
I expect Rose to carry that performance on to next season. He will be the best point guard in the NBA in 2-3 seasons.
Not sure why this is a big deal, Chuck is prob one of many people who think Rose is the #3 PG in basketball these days.
No problems with his order ...Hornets fans do.
I don't get this thread
What about Nash?
The guy is a monster (offensively)
Deron Williams says hi.
Rose is not any better than Billups, or perhaps even Nash or Rondo.
I respect your opinion, I also respect that you're a dumbass. Rondo? Billups? Seriously?
When it's said and done, Rose should be higher than Billups by next year at least. However, Billups has been more productive in the minutes he played this season.
Rose is better offensive player than Rondo. However, Rondo is a better defensive PG and pure pass-first PG than Rose.
I just tend to look at efficiency more on players than volume.
williams
parker
rose
good list barkley
LOL parker ^
you guys are still vastly underrating Rondo
1. Dwill
2. Cp3
3/4. Rose/Rondo
Williams averaged 27 and 12 the first series dip !
Where's that lame ass spurfan who thinks Parker is top 3?
Rose is a great athlete and really good basketball player. As a point guard, I think he could still use some work. He's more athletic and more explosive than guys like Nash and Billups, but I'm not convinced he's a better "point guard" than those guys yet. I think Rondo is a better point guard as well. But, Rose has the talent and will have the opportunity to become a really good point guard in time. And, while stats can tell a lot about a player, they shouldn't be used as the foundation of how good a player is. You fall into the Corey Maggette line of argument. Or worse yet, the Tracy McGrady playoff stats argument. Derrick Rose is a really good young player. Rose put up great numbers in a 5 game playoff series loss. That's not as impressive as if he put up solid numbers and the Bulls upset the Cavs.
He has a ways to go to become an elite point guard. When your franchise player is at the point guard position, that more than the other positions is directly related to team success. So when a point guard helps lead his team to winning les, he gets more credit. When they fail to win, there's more of an onus on the franchise point guard. Billups' career stats, even playoff stats, aren't that impressive. But, it's the fact that he was the leader on so many great teams that defines how good of a "point guard" he has been. Rose scores more than Nash but Nash runs an offense much better and way more efficiently. Doesn't matter if you even average 30 ppg and 15 apg if your team gets swept out of the playoffs. Otherwise, again T-Mac would go down as arguably the best player of the past decade.
All those point guards Billups, Williams, Paul, Nash, Parker, Rondo play or have played with an allstar or superstar. Its kinda hard to dish out assists to crappy offensive players who because of them have the Bulls at the bottom of the league in terms of offense....
In direct response to the OP, John Hollinger has put up a ranking of Point Guards today.(Someone with Insider share plz)
CP3 ranks third. Tough odds for Derrick.
I've really come to like Rondo's game, the way he controls the tempo of the entire game is incredible, he's such a good floor general.
DWill, CP3, Rondo/Nash/Rose
cosigned. rondo is just so underrated on this board it doesn't make any sense. great defender, passer, and floor leader, dished out 19 assists last night and those ridiculous assist numbers and triple doubles in the playoffs have come to be the norm, not the exception.
Well to be fair, Billups had borderline all stars in Detroit, and the one true all star he had before becoming a champion was a defensive all star, Ben Wallace. Sheed was no longer an all star offensive player when he joined the Pistons and Rip was merely a borderline all star. And Chris Paul made David West an all star and Peja was no longer an all star caliber player when he joined the Hornets.
You make do with what you have on a team. I'm not saying Rose is a bad player. I said the opposite. He's a really good young player. I personally feel he hasn't proven to be one of the elite point guards yet. Heck of a basketball player. Great athlete. But the point guard position requires much more than that. Skill and talent wise, Baron Davis is about as talented a point guard in the league, but you wouldn't call him a top 3 point guard. I look at Derrick Rose in a similar fashion. It's not just about being a great scorer at the point guard position. It's not just about having the most or best physical tools. Being a great point guard requires much more than that. Rose hasn't proven that to me yet. He's still very young and if I were to guess, I'd bet that in time he will be. Right now, not a top 3 point guard. I'd personally rank him somewhere in the #6-10 range among point guards.
^ This. Can someone with insider please post this?
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