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    Do you know how often players travel when attacking the basket? Do you know how hard it is to put on an awe-inspiring display of athleticism within the boundaries of what some would want traveling to be?

    Calling traveling nonstop would inhibit alot of the drives/dunks that make the NBA fun to watch. Players would eventually get frustrated and just jack up jumpers nonstop. We'd have 32 Dallas Mavericks franchises, basically. Is that the NBA you want?

    And this isn't some recent phenomena. Dudes have been traveling for decades. Traveling is called just fine imho. Call the truly undeniable blatant stuff, but for the most part let some slide.

    If you want to watch ty, boring basketball where everybody takes only 1.5 steps and never travels, I believe there's a southern Whites Only league starting up. Tickets are going fast!

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    It's not like Stern is gonna make the signature move of his current golden boy against the rules.

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    I don't know why they have such trouble not travelling according to real rules, its really quite sad. That they have to change the rule so they can get away with doing like LeCrab and others. What ing bull

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    I don't know why they have such trouble not travelling according to real rules, its really quite sad. That they have to change the rule so they can get away with doing like LeCrab and others. What ing bull
    I don't think it's really changing any rules. It's just clarifying the rule already set in place... 2 STEPS.

    What Lebron did in the end, was take the 2 steps he is allowed. He may have done it in an unusual and rather large manner, but it was 2 steps regardless. He killed the dribble as he was leaping off his 1 foot. So when he landed on and jumped off of both feet, that equates to 2 steps.

    Not a travel by any means. Just an unorthodox way of taking them that a lot of people don't take advantage of.

    Obviously a lot of people here are too damn stupid to understand what 2 steps consist of.

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    I don't think it's really changing any rules. It's just clarifying the rule already set in place... 2 STEPS.

    What Lebron did in the end, was take the 2 steps he is allowed. He may have done it in an unusual and rather large manner, but it was 2 steps regardless. He killed the dribble as he was leaping off his 1 foot. So when he landed on and jumped off of both feet, that equates to 2 steps.

    Not a travel by any means. Just an unorthodox way of taking them that a lot of people don't take advantage of.

    Obviously a lot of people here are too damn stupid to understand what 2 steps consist of.
    That was not a step that was a full leap. So your saying a player taking a jump shot can jump up in the air and come right down with the ball and go up again? thats travling last time I checked but who knows this day and age.

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    That was not a step that was a full leap. So your saying a player taking a jump shot can jump up in the air and come right down with the ball and go up again? thats travling last time I checked but who knows this day and age.
    You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Go do some research on rules, you ing idiot.

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    So your saying a player taking a jump shot can jump up in the air and come right down with the ball and go up again?
    the ? in what way possible could a human being dribble the ball, jump off one foot, kill his dribble, attempt a jump shot, and land? I guess if LeBron had faked a shot in the middle of his jump stop, then that could happen. And it would still be legal as far as I know. But that's not technically a jump shot.

    I'm not sure if you know this but most people shoot jump shots with both feet on the floor to begin with.

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    Imagine taking a layup off one foot, landing on both feet and then jumping and laying it in....a travel in my book.

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    so if a kangaroo can play basketball it'll be alright for him not to dribble all he has to do is jump around the court because it isn't traveling?

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    Imagine taking a layup off one foot, landing on both feet and then jumping and laying it in....a travel in my book.
    I think it all depends when you discontinue your dribble. Lebron takes three dribbles. On that last dribble it coincided with his feet leaving the ground. There really weren't anymore steps. It was just one big giant bunny hop that counted as his two steps. It's too close to call really. I think it was just the exaggerated height he got on the jumpstop that made it look ridiculous

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    You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Go do some research on rules, you ing idiot.
    Dude, I swear it wasn't me that shot your dog.

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    NBA is rigged league. I do not see why this is even a topic. Everyone knows it is like pro wrestling.

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    Honestly looking at that play in slo-mo Lebron really didn't take two steps before the hop. Look at his dribble. A split second before that hop Lebron took a dribble and really didn't take one single step after that. That dribble went right into the hop. So Doc counting steps and then the hop is plain wrong. Shaq used to do that big hop into a jumphook all the time during the Laker 3 peat years.
    Shaq was always travel and also always did offensive foul. Because at that time league was rigged for him.

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    A progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...7/the-two-step

    cy@
    That is not what he did.

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    Not a travel


    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... e-two-step


    A progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step.
    You need glasses.

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    Imagine taking a layup off one foot, landing on both feet and then jumping and laying it in....a travel in my book.
    Neat.

    Unfortunately for you, you obviously don't have a ing clue what you are talking about either, and further, your book isn't the rule book for high school, college, NBA, and FIBA either. So no one gives a about whats good in your book, moron.

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    I think it all depends when you discontinue your dribble. Lebron takes three dribbles. On that last dribble it coincided with his feet leaving the ground. There really weren't anymore steps. It was just one big giant bunny hop that counted as his two steps. It's too close to call really. I think it was just the exaggerated height he got on the jumpstop that made it look ridiculous
    EXACTLY. If he had done a normal little bunny hop that most people do, no one would have given a , because its legal. But now ing idiots like Chomag and Medvedenko are inadvertently trying to say that there is a limit on how high you can jump.

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    You cannot jump in the air and come back down with the ball under any cir stance. This is stated in NBA rule book. That is a travel. Anyone that say it is not a travel is not very intelligent.

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    You cannot jump in the air and come back down with the ball under any cir stance. This is stated in NBA rule book. That is a travel. Anyone that say it is not a travel is not very intelligent.
    You can if your dribble was alive prior to the jump. If your dribble has already been killed, then no, you can't.

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    EXACTLY. If he had done a normal little bunny hop that most people do, no one would have given a , because its legal. But now ing idiots like Chomag and Medvedenko are inadvertently trying to say that there is a limit on how high you can jump.
    It say right in NBA rules player cannot leave his feet with ball in his hands and then come back to the floor with the ball still. This is rule no matter if you have just made 500 dribbles or not.

    It seem you do not even know basic rules of basketball.

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    You can if your dribble was alive prior to the jump. If your dribble has already been killed, then no, you can't.
    Wrong. LeBron has possession of ball and stops dribbling then he jumps and comes back to the floor. This is a travel in any league, even in NBA.

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    EXACTLY. If he had done a normal little bunny hop that most people do, no one would have given a , because its legal. But now ing idiots like Chomag and Medvedenko are inadvertently trying to say that there is a limit on how high you can jump.
    LOL, sorry didn't mean to get you so butt hurt there dude.

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    Kobe/LeBron/DWade, etc. often take an extra step when driving to the basket...refs typically don't call that a travel if the player is in the lane going up for a shot. Technically, yes, that's traveling by the rules, but it's almost never called.

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    You cannot jump in the air and come back down with the ball under any cir stance.
    ummmmmmmmm, then what are rebounds?

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    EVERYTHING IS TRAVELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY ING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    hey how about we just replace basketball with games of HORSE. that way nobody travels.

    problem solved!

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