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    manu ginobili played poorly, didnt attack the rim and just hit 2 3s.What was that lineup with Blair playing as our Center?Where is Dyss??18 offensive rebounds by a team that doesnt have anyone who averages double digits in rebounding?this is pathetic.Stop small ball it wont work against them and guard the damn pick and roll!!
    Its ok though we can win our 2 at home if we rebound.

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    Manu had an off game. He hasn't been himself since the nose incident. Even his 11 assists are not enough simply because he is MANU GINOBILI and we expect more from him on big games. If he doesn not play well, the SPurs are lost.

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    Dice only played 17 minutes. I think Bonner played 15. Why?

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    It's amazing how badly Pop is getting outcoached in this series.

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    Manu also made Jared Dudley a freakin all star for heavens sake..

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    It's amazing how badly Pop is getting outcoached in this series.
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    at the beginning of the fourth see the suns bench outplaying the spurs starting 5 during 6 minutes is quite

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    manu laid a big ing egg tonight... i dont care about the damn assists. yeah they are all great and dandy but when we needed him to be a scorer in the 4th he wasnt there.

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    Going to need Manu to revert back to the Manu of late March and April.

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    Pop is definitely getting severely outcoached..good for Gentry, I thought he was just an average coach, but it looks like he's got some smarts..he's running all the right plays and exploiting the mismatches..

    Pop did a poor job with his rotations, especially regarding the Bonner-Blair-Bogans trio..the worst move was starting Hill instead of Tony..

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    It's amazing how badly Pop is getting outcoached in this series.
    wtf are you talking about? how has he gotten outcoached? The suns bench is far superior to ours and thats it... thats the 1st two games right there. BENCH PLAY.

    The sequence where they attacked Tim with small ball... thats not being outcoached... thats the players being out matched... what are we supposed to do? pull duncan?

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    I agree Manu sucked balls... that said, enough small ball and the Blair/Bonner experiment. What are we saving Dice for? He was giving us offense and rebounding to start the game. Season on the line now, no more time for bull lineups (Blair/Bonner/Bogans)

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    Pop is definitely getting severely outcoached..good for Gentry, I thought he was just an average coach, but it looks like he's got some smarts..he's running all the right plays and exploiting the mismatches..

    Pop did a poor job with his rotations, especially regarding the Bonner-Blair-Bogans trio..the worst move was starting Hill instead of Tony..
    I believe Gentry worked with Pop

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    I agree Manu sucked balls... that said, enough small ball and the Blair/Bonner experiment. What are we saving Dice for? He was giving us offense and rebounding to start the game. Season on the line now, no more time for bull lineups (Blair/Bonner/Bogans)
    This is a problem for the Spurs because they don't have so many guys other than those and they can't play together. Period.

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    I agree Manu sucked balls... that said, enough small ball and the Blair/Bonner experiment. What are we saving Dice for? He was giving us offense and rebounding to start the game. Season on the line now, no more time for bull lineups (Blair/Bonner/Bogans)
    The suns had frye as center for most of the 4th than came in with amare at center. they had dudley and g.hill at pf the whole time. no way dice can gaurd that. duncan was getting exposed as it was.

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    I don't understand how Pop is getting out coached, at some point the starters have to rest. He is getting nothing from his bench, something Gentry has a wealth of. The Suns were able to keep the lead with Nash on the bench in 4th. Pop has screamed his lungs out about the 3pt shooters but the Spurs are still leaving them open.

    One terrible thing he has done is limit Dice, he should be out there way more than he's played so far.

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    This is a problem for the Spurs because they don't have so many guys other than those and they can't play together. Period.
    You're telling me Dice can't play more than 17 minutes? You can play a dud like Bogans or even Mason if you want, but they can't be together on the court at the same time. Bonner you simply cannot play. He's not only missing everything, he can't rebound for .

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    I disagree. There were two differences in the game.

    The biggest difference is that Phoenix has Frye and the Spurs have Bonner. Bonner would not have sniffed the Spurs playoff rotation during their championship runs. He is always the worst player on the floor. That is Pop's fault to a degree, but Pop did bury Bonner on the bench when Duncan got into foul trouble. It just so happened that Blair at Center didn't work either.

    The other reason they lost was the erratic officiating. The refs were wildly inconsistent. Both teams were subject to crappy calls, but roughly 75% of the borderline calls went the way of Phoenix. The refs missed enough calls to give Phoenix an extra 6-8 points. Add Frye to that and you have a sizeable win.

    I still cannot believe Bonner is a Spur. There is not one attribute in his game that represents what the Spurs franchise has stood for over the last decade. Every time he steps on the floor I have an immediate power down.

    The only reason he is on the team is because Pop shows loyalty to a fault. But you have to take the good with the bad. And I'd rather have Pop + Bonner than no Pop.

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    You're telling me Dice can't play more than 17 minutes? You can play a dud like Bogans or even Mason if you want, but they can't be together on the court at the same time. Bonner you simply cannot play. He's not only missing everything, he can't rebound for .
    Oh I would love for Dice to play 30 minutes but the problems is the matchups with the Suns players on the court. I'm not sure Pop can play him all he wants to because of that. Dice played well tonight.

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    The other reason they lost was the erratic officiating. The refs were wildly inconsistent. Both teams were subject to crappy calls, but roughly 75% of the borderline calls went the way of Phoenix.
    Please, leave this out. Refs had nothing to do with it.

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    I don't understand how Pop is getting out coached, at some point the starters have to rest. He is getting nothing from his bench, something Gentry has a wealth of. The Suns were able to keep the lead with Nash on the bench in 4th. Pop has screamed his lungs out about the 3pt shooters but the Spurs are still leaving them open.

    One terrible thing he has done is limit Dice, he should be out there way more than he's played so far.
    thats exactly what im saying. I am not saying pop has coached a perfect series or anything but this 0-2 deficit has very little to do with how he is coaching.

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    Oh I would love for Dice to play 30 minutes but the problems is the matchups with the Suns players on the court. I'm not sure Pop can play him all he wants to because of that. Dice played well tonight.
    If you can play Bonner, then you can play Dice. At least he will give you a jumper on offense. Bonner is completely worthless.

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    wtf are you talking about? how has he gotten outcoached? The suns bench is far superior to ours and thats it... thats the 1st two games right there. BENCH PLAY.
    So playing Bonner 15 minutes and McDyess 17 means nothing I guess? Pop hasn't made adjustments to Phoenix's bench. That's how he's getting outcoached.

    The sequence where they attacked Tim with small ball... thats not being outcoached... thats the players being out matched... what are we supposed to do? pull duncan?
    How about constantly leaving shooters open? You think it would continue to happen if Pop made instructions on which players could leave their guys and which couldn't? I'll ask you this hypothetical:

    Which would you rather have? Duncan guarding Nash (iso)/Parker guarding Amare(iso) or leaving Frye/Richardson/Dudley open for 3?

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    Blair needs more of Bonner's minutes with Tim/Dice. He'll figure out the rebounding but he's played preety good defense on Amare and needs to make a few more tip shots.

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    I acknowledge that he has little to work with..Pop wouldn't be in my top 3 reasons the Spurs are losing this series, but I do think he's coaching poorly..

    He continues to play the Bonner-Blair frontcourt too much..tonight he played it for way too long..I understand not bringing Tim back on since he played most of the 1st, but McDyess had enough rest and should have been playing to start the 2nd or come in really soon after..there's no reason to rest McDyess too much at this point, there's nothing to look forward to, you can't plan like you're assuming you're going to advance..McDyess-Blair is a lot more tolerable than Bonner-Blair..

    Adding insult to injury is playing them for an entire stretch with Bogans too..I don't mind giving Bogans 5 minutes, but not with Bonner-Blair for long periods of time..

    He also started Hill, which clearly hurt the Spurs a lot in the 1st quarter, since Hill was terrible..the Spurs would have built an even larger lead with Parker in there, Tony had a very good game..

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    I'm just gonna throw this out there...If Parker would have the bed in a game 2 playoff game against the suns, this place would explode due to all the Parker hate.

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