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i don't get it, how the Spurs let Joey Crawford ref them, after what heppened with him they have legitimate right to demand from NBA that he will never ref them.
Fourth quarter fouls before the intentional ones at the end:
Spurs 7
Suns 7
i don't get it, how the Spurs let Joey Crawford ref them, after what heppened with him they have legitimate right to demand from NBA that he will never ref them.
I blame Bonner.
Anyway to tell us these stats when the Grizzly Blair was in?
The Suns outplayed and outhustled the Spurs. Refs were the least of the Spurs' problems tonight.
Didn't count them all but I know of 4 offensive rebounds were on his face. Don't think he's the culprit though but the lineup itself was just bad.
Nash was getting away playing NFL style with those push offs in front of the refs.
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While I do believe the Suns got the benefit of the whistle, putting the loss on that is a fail. They lost because they couldn't score and sucked booty hole on defense.
definitely when dudley had at least 2.
Yep. I'm the first one to call out refs when they lean too far one way or the other. (I probably catch more for it than anyone else here, too.) The refs didn't take this game over. The Suns are a good team, and the Spurs have to play good ball to beat them. Some Spurs played good ball, but our bench just sucked. If Bonner had stepped into his 3's the way Dudley did, we would be coming home 1-1. And that's what Bonner's there for.
Spurs were doing it just as much.
Ok well those stats don't always tell the whole story. The suns deserved the win tonight. I'll shut up about the refs now.
no, not really.
In my opinion the %s for the Spurs loss
40% refs
60% Spurs
Spurs messed up a bunch of times but still had the lead midway through the 3rd quarter. But it's extremely hard to play when you get called for a foul each time you play defense. Spurs had more field goals made, more blocks, more steals, more assists and also more player fouls. Most egregious was my witnessing Stoudemire getting the and-1 after dunking the ball.
Nah. Refs had nothing to do with it.
The refs had nothing to do with it. We got beat fair and square.
I was'nt all that bad, but it did get a little funny when we went up 6 in the 3rd. All the sudden offensive foul, traveling, 3 seconds, and on and on. They hit some big shots though. I think we need to keep more people back and give up some of our fast break opportunities cause offensive boards lost this game.
If this goes 7 games there is no way I see the Suns beating us. I don't care if it is home. With the history they have of screwing up someway somehow against us, I have no doubt if it goes 7 we will beat them at home. All the pressure would be on them, and we all know how well they handle pressure.
Refs didn't screw the Spurs, this guy did.
"Clank" is the sound immediately following this.
The refs were equally poor. Two easy calls they missed (ploto below) and Parker carried the ball at least twice that I can see. Duncan was allowed to camp in the lane all game long as well.
The refs were equally inept at both ends of the court.
Yep.
Yep. Look at Parker/Manu on the P&R. They use their offhand to push off and get separation all the time.
Ummmm no.
The Suns are playing better basketball when it matters. Period.
The Spurs Living and dying on the perimeter Is why We Didnt get free throw Attempts.... If Parker, Ginobili, Hill, and Jefferson Start Goin to the Bucket more, then You can Blame the refs.... Plus Duncan Started that Fade away Bull again, When Duncan Goes up strong He gets That call 90% Of the time.....Im not saying there were not questionable calls.... but The spurs Killed themselves.... Fans Need to Stop Blaming The refs Or pop For every Loss.....
The stretch from about 10:45 in the second to about 7:30, when the Suns took the game from 32-21 to 36-32 based on about 5 or 6 offensive rebounds and 2 or 3 and 1's on second chances ultimately decided the game. If the Spurs complete their stops by getting rebounds and capitalize on their ability to score early in the game, they put the Suns in a much deeper hole and keep the crowd out of the game.
Failing to do that, being soft on the defensive glass throughout the game, settling for ill-advised jumpers in transition, committing two absolutely stupid fouls (Bogans' block on Barbosa at the end of the first quarter and Blair's foul of Nash under the Suns' basket in the 4th), and poor defensive rotations at time were more than sufficient to do the Spurs in.
The 4 officials who worked the game had absolutely nothing to do with any of those things.
For those who might care about such things, I'm relatively confident at this point that Danny Crawford will be the chief for Game 3 and that Monty McCutchen will be the chief for Game 4.
The officials were not the problem.
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