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    For the second straight game, the Spurs scored 102 points, which is usually enough to win. In game 2, they shot 50.6% and had fewer turnovers than the Suns. And they still lost. Sure, they could've scored more, but they lost the game on the boards. They got outworked BIG time, and after losing game 1, that's the last thing I expected.

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    obviously spurs can't go 6/7 deep, bonner and bogans have to play whether you like it or not. So why not put bogans in the starting lineup. Manu is no longer attacking the basket from start, but i am sure TP will if he gets the nod. That's why starting TP and bogans along with RJ,timmy and dice makes lot of sense. Hill, bonner,blair and a fresh manu off the bench will do wonder.

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    I don't think opening punches are going to cut it against this team though.


    We have to respond to their runs and not make them respond to ours.

    So far this postseason the winner of the first quarter has won the game, EXCEPT for tonight. Tonight we won the first quarter handily and still blew it. I don't think the Suns are the kind of team you can sit on a good lead and just dominate the game.

    You have to play with them and then when it comes to crunch time answer their runs and dominate them like we did in games 4 and 6 against the Mavs.
    The suns are much different than the Mavs when it comes to crunch time, though. The Mavs were extremely predictable. You knew it was going to Dirk, you just had to try and crowd him and force him into deep fadeaways. The suns can go with the nash-amare PnR, or nash will just dribble around till he gets enough space for a shot, or finds an open shooter for 3. The suns offense is just much more dynamic than the Mavs.

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    pop has to tell tp to shot 25 times like he did in the past
    since most other spurs suck shooting lately

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    pop has to tell tp to shot 25 times like he did in the past
    since most other spurs suck shooting lately
    I dont agree with your continuous bashing of manu but I do agree with this point. Tony is shooting extremely well and should be one of the keys of the game to have him shoot as many as possible.

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    For the second straight game, the Spurs scored 102 points, which is usually enough to win. In game 2, they shot 50.6% and had fewer turnovers than the Suns. And they still lost. Sure, they could've scored more, but they lost the game on the boards. They got outworked BIG time, and after losing game 1, that's the last thing I expected.
    Yup, it doesnt matter if you shoot well and take care of the ball if you give up 10000000000 2nd chance points...

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    I know I'm fair when Manu fans think I protect Parker, Parker fans think I protect Duncan and Duncan fans think I protect Ginobili.
    I'm a fan of all three and have no bias whatsoever. When I said fan, I mean a genuine fan of all three's games, not just a fan because I'm a Spurs fan and they play for the team. I just call it like I see it, unlike some people...go back and look at your comments recently. It doesn't matter what Duncan does, there's always a dig, or a caveat, or something. As if you expect a 34-year old with bad knees and quad tendonosis to play a perfect game. But Ginobili, he can get away with anything and the blow is almost always softened. Maybe you're just not conscious of it, but I'm telling you I've noticed a recurring trend.

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    obviously spurs can't go 6/7 deep, bonner and bogans have to play whether you like it or not. So why not put bogans in the starting lineup. Manu is no longer attacking the basket from start, but i am sure TP will if he gets the nod. That's why starting TP and bogans along with RJ,timmy and dice makes lot of sense. Hill, bonner,blair and a fresh manu off the bench will do wonder.
    You're pretty close to what I've been saying. Here's what I touched on at the half:
    That's why I wanted to break up the Big 3 into tandems to start the game, starting with Tim and Tony. You spread out the trash (Bogans and Bonner), don't leave Manu to waste minutes not getting on track while they pound it into Tim, and then you've got the ability to let Manu come in after getting a read on the game and allow him to run the point to get RJ, and maybe even Blair off.

    Now we've got Tim rolling pretty decent and Tony looking alright, but Manu's still looking to find his rhythm and the Suns are back in the game because Pop's rotation led him to play Bogans, Bonner and Blair at the same time; without that lineup the Spurs are up 10 (because that second unit killed them on the glass -- which is what happens when you've got Blair, Bonner and Bogans trying to man the defensive glass).
    I just don't like the balance and continuity that's coming about and the rhythm it's creating with Pop's current rotation. Watching the first half just reinforced the belief.

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    Parker is starting Game 3.


    Book it.

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    and this same thing happened in the series with dallas, difference it's the spurs won

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    I'm not sure why McDyess hasn't developed a 3-point game. When you're that good from 20 feet it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to back it up a couple of feet. Maybe we let him test it out in Bonner's role over the next few games.
    I remember reading an interview of Chip before saying that those long 2's don't always translate to shooting a good percentage from 3. Sometimes, your jump, your release, little things like that, are good enough to make those long two's, but the same technique won't be good enough for a three.

    That said, I think the Spurs have to keep going to Tony. They really can't stop him in his drives and his jumper is pretty reliable. I wasn't for Ginobili going to the bench in Game 2, but it might be a good idea now just to shake things up. Besides, if anyone could take being sent to the bench, it's Manu.

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    It sucks. I hope this team could bounce back.

    If it takes 7 games to the WCF, we could easily lose to Lakers without the rests we need.

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    I want parker to take 4 three point attempts per game the rest of the way.

    He can do it. This, I do believe.

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    Fry is making all the difference in the world. everyone knows he willn't shoot that way on the road. If the Spurs can win games 3 and 4, and i think they will, he'll have to hit those same threes in game 5, with a lot more pressure. some guys fade when the pressure builds up, and i'm hoping he's one of those.

    What's major cause for concern is that Ginobili isn't playing well at all. the Manu that we're all used to seeing perform his best when it's most needed has looked bad. i don't know what is up with him. but they'll NEED him to play well and be his normal self. if you look at the statistics, everyone played well except him. we got what we needed out of RJ and Hill.

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    I would like to know the reason Dice isn't seeing more action. The only reason I can think of is that his body cant handle it. Having Dice out there with Blair or Duncan is better then having Bonner with either of them. and so far this postseason Dice has been playing great...

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    Yeah, Spurs fans have scoffed Bonner much of the last two years but he has been pretty damn awesome in the regular season. For two straight seasons, Bonner had the best +/- stats on the team. One season may be a fluke ... but not two.

    But now he doesn't like to shoot. Misses the shots he takes. Defensively, he's now a pushover. He can't grab contested rebounds. He literally can't do anything.

    I've seen chokers before but Bonner's playoff choking is way worse than anything I've ever seen.
    While we're all piling on, allow me to continue.

    Don't forget Bonner doesn't block out either. A couple of Dudley's offensive rebounds came about because Bonner neglected to find him and put a body on him - and the worst part was HE was in position for the defensive rebound.

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    of course ST predictably blames everything on Bonner, and quickly forgets how the team continually left their 3 point shooters open, and at times looked like they had never defended a pick an roll before.

    the defense/team played lazy and indecisive, and phoenix had all the hustle and intensity, so they got all the calls, all the 50/50 balls, and way to many offensive rebounds.

    Bonner can't hit the 3 in the playoffs, starting to look like he'll never get over that psychological hangup, too bad, but it's on Pop to get him out of there after a couple misses.

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    I too want to see Parker shooting threes. It couldn't be any worse and he's got a decent deep/mid-range shot going already.

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    of course ST predictably blames everything on Bonner, and quickly forgets how the team continually left their 3 point shooters open, and at times looked like they had never defended a pick an roll before.

    the defense/team played lazy and indecisive, and phoenix had all the hustle and intensity, so they got all the calls, all the 50/50 balls, and way to many offensive rebounds.

    Bonner can't hit the 3 in the playoffs, starting to look like he'll never get over that psychological hangup, too bad, but it's on Pop to get him out of there after a couple misses.
    Bonner predictably deserves to be blamed. We all get that he's not a passable rebounder, not a passable defender, and not someone with a high basketball IQ, but if he can't drain wide open shots then he's a complete and total liability.

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    We ain't going to win games in the playoffs with the opponent scoring 100+points.
    We have to shut down the role players and box out.

    Bonner seriously, he is not so bad in the regular season but wow how can you choke so bad when your main weapon is the 3pt shot. I mean the guy plays in the nba for this sole reason and he can't hit a wide open 3 to save his life.

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    Here's a tip for our coach. If you want to stop the Suns pick and roll, try looking at how the Suns completely shut down our pick and roll, both with Ginobili and with Parker. They jammed the ballhandler with not just a show from their big, but an all-out blitz, generally bumping Parker or ginobili way out atthe top of the circle. They constantly caused a disrption, which led to innumerable busted plays.

    Seriously, unless we went to Tim on the block, our offense was extremely disorganized tonight.

    Yet the Suns scored on practically every possession in the last six minutes of the game, and those were mostly on pick and rolls with Nash/Amare, or kickouts from Nash, who once again got into our lane unen bered. The only time we got a stop was when they made a couple of turnovers.

    Are you telling me that Popovich can't figure out a way to slow down Phoenix' offense when they run the same exact play for 48 minutes?

    Some genius this guy is.

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    While we're all piling on, allow me to continue.

    Don't forget Bonner doesn't block out either. A couple of Dudley's offensive rebounds came about because Bonner neglected to find him and put a body on him - and the worst part was HE was in position for the defensive rebound.
    This is true. Of all the Spur players, Bonner is the least athletic, so he should be fundamental about everything, but he's not.

    When the ball goes up, the first thing you do is find an orange jersey and put a body on him. that's the whole point of every rebounding drill. Yet what does Bonner do? He turns and watches the ball, or even worse, he runs underneathte rim and waits for the carom. Dod you notice hos many long rebounds we lost tonight? That's because people weren't blocking out. If you put a body on people you can still control most long rebounds.

    Neither Bonner nor RJ has blocked out all year long, so I don't anticipate they'll start in Game 3.

    Once again, this is first day of high school practice stuff, yet Pop can't get his players to do these things. Very impressive.

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    Andrew Gaze > Shane Heal...lol.


    But then again Horry & Barry > Bonner & Mason.

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    The Spurs and Bonner can't overcome Pop's glaring mistakes. And the sad fact is that if Carlisle hadn't Pop'd his team by being too stubborn to play Beaubois the Spurs probably aren't even playing right now.

    I said it before this game. I said it before the series. I said it before the playoffs. I said if before last year's playoffs.

    Matt Bonner getting playing time is asking to lose in the playoffs.

    It's true. All you Bonner lovers can pretend like it's not true and act shocked, but in your hearts you know it's true.

    And there should be no qualifying for his playing time, not anymore. Saying that Bonner should still play but if he misses his shots then pull him is ridiculous. He's already failed. Over and over and over again. It wasn't just a Mavericks thing. And if the rest of the Spurs pull this series out it won't have just been a Suns thing, because Bonner would be just as terrible against Pau, Bynum, and Odom.

    He can not play, period.

    The sad truth is this: based on playoff performances on record, Ian Mahinmi is a much better option than Bonner. At least he can rebound. Ian's single game against the Mavs where he had real minutes easily outshined any game of Bonner's entire playoff career.

    If Pop plays Bonner again the Spurs deserve to lose. McDyess is right there. Blair is right there. Ian is right there. Any buffoonish small forward to go small with is right there. They are all better options than Bonner despite any and all flaws they might have.

    And I don't care if Bonner piles on in game 3 after the real Spurs get a big lead on the Suns and then Bonner squeezes in his pile-on baskets like he did last year.

    Bonner is a playoff choker, it was etched in stone long before game 2 of the 2010 2nd round.

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    pop has to tell tp to shot 25 times like he did in the past
    since most other spurs suck shooting lately
    You and CBF do realize Manu shot 40% on threes tonight, right? The guy who's supposedly slumping on three pointers is 5/14 (36%) and that's with a couple of desperation ones he took at the end of Game 1.

    Oh right, I forgot you guys aren't fans of math or logic. Only in the CoT is 8 field goal attempts and 11 assists considered a mortal sin. If anybody on this ing team could shoot at all Manu would've had 20 assists like Rondo.

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