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    The defense and accountability criticisms of D'Antoni are spot on, the "develop a bench" is absolutely stupid.

    Another cliche that got started as a quote taken out of context.

    Cheap ass Sarver made his coach the GM to save money. D'Antoni really wanted to keep Tim Thomas after his great 2006 playoffs but couldnt sign TT and sign a pick and keep the team under the luxury tax. Thus, he decided to trade away the picks and make an offer to TT.

    He was trying to win a championship "now" and not build for the future. The quote was "were not trying to develop players".

    For the rest of his tenure, the Suns "Bench" consisted of guys who didnt even belong in the league but the Suns signed because they were minimum salary players and kept payroll low. D'Antoni got criticism for not playing them. None of these guys proved D'Antoni wrong. None of them went on to prove they deserved minutes for someone else. Like I said, most couldnt even stay in the league and shouldnt have been on the team to begin with.

    Idiot fans like DOK will claim D'Antoni couldnt "develop" players which is stupid considering what he did with Joe Johnson, Amare Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa, Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, James Jones etc.

    I agree about the bench thing and always have. Jalen Rose and Marcus Banks weren't going to make a difference in 2007, however, D'antoni never showed a huge interest in getting a deeper bench. And I'll repeat, I never said he couldn't develop players, it's that for the most part, he chose not to. When he wanted to be he was a great talent developer because he was comfortable letting players make mistakes.

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    I'm talking about the article making Kerr out to be some kind of genius when at the start of the season... no one, not even Kerr expected this out of Frye... their surprise was do ented ad infinitum...

    It's revisionist history to now proclaim Kerr, the GM, the greatest thing since sliced bread...

    It's hindsight but not really revisionist history. Kerr has made several mistakes but so do a lot of GM's in their first few years. He was willing to correct by far his biggest mistake (hiring Terry Porter) when it became evident that situation wasn't gonna get better. The Shaq trade was not his fault, it was D'antoni. D'antoni has openly said he wanted the trade and Kerr was the hesitant factor. I'm not gonna say Kerr is a genius because the jury is still out on what steps he can take to get the team over the top, but imo he's a top 10 GM in the league.

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    Please tell me you get the reference...

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    What reference? I just hadn't seen the Deebo gif with the STFUPPERCUT.

    You do know what zang means, right?


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    It's hindsight but not really revisionist history. Kerr has made several mistakes but so do a lot of GM's in their first few years. He was willing to correct by far his biggest mistake (hiring Terry Porter) when it became evident that situation wasn't gonna get better. The Shaq trade was not his fault, it was D'antoni. D'antoni has openly said he wanted the trade and Kerr was the hesitant factor. I'm not gonna say Kerr is a genius because the jury is still out on what steps he can take to get the team over the top, but imo he's a top 10 GM in the league.
    Im not quite sure if Ive forgiven him for Terry Porter. I dont know what Porter said in that interview to make him think he could be a coach.

    I will edit my last post to take out the mean spirited comment.

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    Please tell me you get the reference...


    I got it. That OTHER Suns fan poster...

    Oh, and I also got the Wayne's World 2 reference. Classic.

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    I got it. That OTHER Suns fan poster...

    Oh, and I also got the Wayne's World 2 reference. Classic.
    The alfa duetto he drives at the end is so choice.

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    Im not quite sure if Ive forgiven him for Terry Porter. I dont know what Porter said in that interview to make him think he could be a coach.

    I will edit my last post to take out the mean spirited comment.

    It's cool, you're not the only person my negativity has pissed off.

    And yeah, if that interview was anything like a Porter press conference Kerr musta been nuts to hire him. When he was the head assistant on Detroit and they promoted Michael Curry ahead of him, a red flag should have gone up. Idk what the worst Porter moment was, him having the team make collages to build unity, basically admitting he had no idea who Roger Mason was when at the time he was leading the NBA in 3 point percent, or literally having nothing to say after Granger hit that shot.

    On an unrelated note, what will you think of Sarver if/when Amare gets an extension? The more I think about it, he has always been willing to s out money when D'antoni/Kerr told him he needed to. Porter for example, Sarver is currently paying two coaches for a team most thought was a borderline playoff team. I can go on, but I'll certainly be less hard on him if Amare gets an extension.

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    I got it. That OTHER Suns fan poster...

    Oh, and I also got the Wayne's World 2 reference. Classic.
    Got it.

    And it's from the original. Give it a read, it's good times.

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    The alfa duetto he drives at the end is so choice.

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    A few years back I pegged Gentry as my choice to replace Pop when he retires, but it looks like he may stick with the Suns for some time.

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