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    On a lighter note, I have to ask, does Fox News always have polls like this

    "You Decide : Ban the American Flag - In America?"

    I love it.
    Do most of their polls end up 99%-1%??
    GTFO here. Is there REALLY a poll saying that?!

    I am not clueless to what they were trying to do, I am saying that there is a problem when wearing an american flag in the USA is offensive. These kids were obviously "offended" by the upcoming display of the Mexican flag in the USA and therefore chose that offensive symbol to wear to school.
    I guess what I'm saying is that kids have felt "dissed" for far less...and violence has broken out as a result. The principal felt that a preemptive strike on anything deemed offensive (again, given the current political climate) was necessary.

    Admittedly, I wouldn't have had much of a problem if he had simply asked them to remove their bandannas and let them carry on. At the same time, I wouldn't have felt TOO badly for them had they got beaten up by some put-off Mexicans later in the day.

    They knew what they were doing.

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    Sent home for wearing American flags. God our country has gone to .

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    Sent home for wearing American flags. God our country has gone to .
    Being purposely obtuse doesn't really help your..."argument" (?)

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    GTFO here. Is there REALLY a poll saying that?!



    I guess what I'm saying is that kids have felt "dissed" for far less...and violence has broken out as a result. The principal felt that a preemptive strike on anything deemed offensive (again, given the current political climate) was necessary.

    Admittedly, I wouldn't have had much of a problem if he had simply asked them to remove their bandannas and let them carry on. At the same time, I wouldn't have felt TOO badly for them had they got beaten up by some put-off Mexicans later in the day.

    They knew what they were doing.
    Fair enough, The principal felt that a preemptive strike on anything deemed offensive was necessary. Why, then, was the girl who had a mexican flag painted on her chest not asked to wash it off? Why did he not ask all students to put away their mexican flags in addition to what he asked of those students?

    Also, I disagree with LNGRrr (sp?), I think that these kids were trying to be rabble rousers, but if kids at an american school can wear mexican flags, then kids at an american school can wear american flags. If there is anyone who is offended by the actions of those 5 then THOSE people need to be dealt with.

    Also, yes, that poll is right under the story. Pure gold.

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    Why, then, was the girl who had a mexican flag painted on her chest not asked to wash it off? Why did he not ask all students to put away their mexican flags in addition to what he asked of those?
    To be fair, the article mentions that some were asked this.

    Some other Mexican-American students reportedly said their flags were taken away or asked to be put away, but no other students were sent home on Wednesday.

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    Fair enough, The principal felt that a preemptive strike on anything deemed offensive was necessary. Why, then, was the girl who had a mexican flag painted on her chest not asked to wash it off? Why did he not ask all students to put away their mexican flags in addition to what he asked of those students?
    I actually wondered about the face paint. Not so much as it pertains to upsetting people, but if it fell under the same dress code violations as the bandannas.

    In the grand scheme of things, you're right. In the end, it's about free speech. Each side should be allowed to express themselves as they see fit. However, as has already been pointed out, high school students aren't provided the same "liberties" as those in the real world. And if the principal thought that, if only for the day , damage control to prevent a possible uproar was necessary, I can't really fault him for that. Were he to prohibit such "expressions" throughout the remainder of the school year, then there would certainly be cause for concern.

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    The boys told Rodriguez and Principal Nick Boden that turning their shirts inside-out was disrespectful, so their parents decided to take them home, the newspaper reports.
    Also, a couple people have mentioned that the boys were "sent home." But, if I'm reading this correctly, the parents took the boys home after they refused to flip their shirts.

    The fact that the article later states that none of the "other [Mexican] students were sent home" seems a bit contradictory.

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    Good catch LnGrrrR.

    Fpoonsie, they do have limited freedoms as highschool students, but they should at least be equal to one another.

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    Whoops. I just re-read it. "Either flip their shirts, or be sent home."

    Huh. A bit extreme, I'll admit, but still.

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    Whoops. I just re-read it. "Either flip their shirts, or be sent home."

    Huh. A bit extreme, I'll admit, but still.
    would have been great if they were tommy hilfiger shirts and the kids flipped them to reveal a flag on the tag. LOL

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    would have been great if they were tommy hilfiger shirts and the kids flipped them to reveal a flag on the tag. LOL

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    Well, fair enough I guess. But I don't think a lot of guys are rocking solid white T's in high school these days, much less coordinating them.

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    You don't think ten buddies wearing solid white T-shirts on MLK Day would be su ious?
    It has honestly never crossed my mind to pay attention to what people are wearing on MLK day as I am usually at work.

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    I am usually at work.
    Waiting for Dumper of all Chumps to chime in

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    Not to incite anything, but wouldn't there be plenty of African-Americans wearing plain white t-shirts on MLK day anyways?

    Also, I find the whole Cinco de Mayo reverence here in the U.S. funny because it isn't widely celebrated outside of Puebla. Or, at least that's my understanding and observation when I've been in Mexico on the 5th of Mayo.

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    It has honestly never crossed my mind to pay attention to what people are wearing on MLK day as I am usually at work.


    So was the principal. That's whose decision we're discussing.

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    Not to incite anything, but wouldn't there be plenty of African-Americans wearing plain white t-shirts on MLK day anyways?

    Also, I find the whole Cinco de Mayo reverence here in the U.S. funny because it isn't widely celebrated outside of Puebla. Or, at least that's my understanding and observation when I've been in Mexico on the 5th of Mayo.


    I just never realized that I'm being racist when I wear my white dress shirts. I better start rockin the Johnny Cash look before I get labeled.

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    So, is that band Plain White T's racist? Does the black band member know what kind of band he's in?

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    I just never realized that I'm being racist when I wear my white dress shirts. I better start rockin the Johnny Cash look before I get labeled.
    I'm not sure if I was inferring that you were racist. I just was trying to make a slight joke about the plain white t-shirt wearing that normally goes on for (at least around my area) the African-American youth.

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    I just never realized that I'm being racist when I wear my white dress shirts. I better start rockin the Johnny Cash look before I get labeled.


    You're hopeless.

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    I'm not sure if I was inferring that you were racist. I just was trying to make a slight joke about the plain white t-shirt wearing that normally goes on for (at least around my area) the African-American youth.

    I was just joking. I think the whole notion of white shirts being racist is extremely silly.

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    It's not the shirts that are racist in that scenario. But I'm not going to hold your hand and walk you through the analogy.

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    White hoods are a different story. Those are never a good look.

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    I was told if you wear just a white t'shirt means you are a wife beater.

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    Can you ever imagine a mexican kid on the 4th of July being sent home for wearing a t'shirt that had a mexican flag on it? Holy !!! You would have a ing riot on your hands. Chants of RACIST RACIST RACIST would be heard throughout the land by far left freaks like Obama.

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