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Thats my thinking as well. If we take them to a game 7 I would be willing to almost guarantee they wouldn't win that game.
Um, Theo's no longer with the team...
Thats my thinking as well. If we take them to a game 7 I would be willing to almost guarantee they wouldn't win that game.
Spurs still have a mental edge on the Suns. How could they not when we ousted them in 2005, 2007 and 2008 with the core group of Tony, Manu and Tim still on the floor? They played great at home, but a little pressure can change it all. Spurs go home and get even and then we'll see what this years Suns are really made of..
Do you guys think McDyess has a shot at getting around 30 mpg in Game 3?
I still have faith, games 1 and 2 were relatively close. The Suns didn't exactly run the Spurs off the court.
Contrast that to the Hornets series in 2008, the Spurs were blown out of the water in games 1, 2, and 5. They lost by more than 20+ points in each game. I had serious doubts about game 7.
Back then, the Spurs had a supporting cast of Bowen, Barry, Oberto, Horry and Finley - all playoff-proven players. Now the bench consists of Bonner, Mason and Bogans. Big difference. And the big 3 are a lot older. Didn't have to be so concerned about Duncan's and Manu's minutes.
Okay, this comparison seems a little bit unfair -- comparing the previous "supporting cast" to the current "bench." That leaves a lot of current contributors in an in between neverland.
Where does that leave Hill and McDyess? They should count as the Spurs' current supporting cast but don't rate a mention.
Bottom line -- I think the Spurs have enough overall talent to go as far as their prior le teams.
And tarring all of the Spurs' current bench (e.g., Bogans and Blair) with the admittedly horrific "Bonner" label is cruel and unfair.
Okay, this comparison seems a little bit unfair -- comparing the previous "supporting cast" to the current "bench." That leaves a lot of current contributors in an in between neverland.
Where does that leave Hill and McDyess? They should count as the Spurs' current supporting cast but don't rate a mention.
Bottom line -- I think the Spurs have enough overall talent to go as far as their prior le teams.
And tarring all of the Spurs' current bench (e.g., Bogans and Blair) with the admittedly horrific "Bonner" label is cruel and unfair.
I don't think with just those two guys. Mason is so bad he should wear nothing but street clothes from now until he is out if SA. Bonner.... The last okay game I saw Bogans play was against LA in the regular season. Blair is still wet behind the ears and seems to be regressing some in the playoffs. Hill played lights out against Dallasand even though he has played pretty bad this series I will still give you Hill. Dice is really the only one who contributes something, anything consistently in the playoffs. And personally idk if Pop playing him more will change things when those other guys mentioned maybe excluding Hill are just not offering crap. Bowen, Fin, Horry, Oberto, each one of those guys brought at least one intangible to the floor to help us. if I remember correctly even Vaughn would be able to come in and at least provide some solid minutes of good hard defense.
Last edited by florige; 05-06-2010 at 11:15 PM.
Well, Dice is a proven player and far exceeded expectations in the DAL series. He defended Dirk well, played with a lot of heart and knocked down his jump shots. Popovich has only played him 19 and 22 mins. in the PHX series.Okay, this comparison seems a little bit unfair -- comparing the previous "supporting cast" to the current "bench." That leaves a lot of current contributors in an in between neverland.
Where does that leave Hill and McDyess? They should count as the Spurs' current supporting cast but don't rate a mention.
Bottom line -- I think the Spurs have enough overall talent to go as far as their prior le teams.
And tarring all of the Spurs' current bench (e.g., Bogans and Blair) with the admittedly horrific "Bonner" label is cruel and unfair.
I wouldn't call Hill a proven playoff player. He's performed well so far
and is averaging almost 14 points over 8 games. But he has not been through the wars and battles that the previous supporting cast has as evidenced by the way Nash's craftiness carved him up in the first game.
Jefferson has played in a lot of playoff games but shows up once every 3 playoff games for the Spurs. He's averaging almost 10 points a game in a lot of minutes.
What I'm trying to say (not very well, I guess) is that Hill and Jefferson (because of inexperience and inconsistency) don't inspire the sort of confidence that Bowen, Horry, Oberto, Barry did - that would lead one to think that the Spurs could win the series from a 1-3 or 0-2 deficit.
In the last game:
big 3 + Dice = 137 mins (57%)
big 3 + Dice + Hill = 168 mins (69%)
big 3 + Dice + Hill + Jefferson = 211 mins (87%)
rest of team = 30 mins. (13 %)
So outside of the big 3 and Dice, that's a whopping 43% of the minutes being played by inexperienced or inconsistent players.
I do agree that this team has the talent, in fact, even more talent than the 07 championship team. But as seen by previous Suns teams, talent alone doesn't cut it. I think Hill and Blair have heart and toughness. Don't know about the rest of the players.
I guess I should be grateful when Jefferson deigns to show up in 3 out of 8 games and hope that Manu gets back to his pre-broken nose performances and/or hits a streak of 3pters. But even if they do get out of this series, the team (without Finley's 3 point shooting and Ratliff's height) won't beat the Lakers barring an injury to Kobe or Gasol. I would be delighted to eat crow if, by some miracle, they were to win the championship :-)
This is the most orginal adjustemnt I have ever heard
NO.You only protect Ginobili. It's clearly seen from your reactions.I know I'm fair when Manu fans think I protect Parker, Parker fans think I protect Duncan and Duncan fans think I protect Ginobili.
He just likes him better
whatta?
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