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    LeBron is allowed to play in another league from just about everyone else in the league primarily because of his athleticism (e.g. He doesn't get called for goaltending on those come from behind blocks when the ball is clearly over the cylinder beecause the refs are in awe of his closing time/speed and give him the benefit of the doubt, etc.). He claims he's a "no excuse" kind of guy but has an excuse for every major blunder he encounters, and weak ones at that.

    If he were to win a championship he'd become a bigger monster than the one he himself claimed those who adored him in High School made him in terms of ego. JMHO.
    Not only this but that layup from manu that he got called for travelling was just ridiculous.

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    It's very simple - Pop is choosing to switch on the pick and rolls, and Phoenix is making them pay.

    Pop is supposd to be a defensive genius, yet they get any shot they want.

    Meanwhile, a Phoenix team that is not a great defensive team is making us look like high schoolers out there. If we want to learn how to stop the pick and roll, just show the tape from tonight's game on how they stopped ours.

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    Pop called all the right TOs, and told your players to get as many delay-of-game (grabbing the ball off a made SA shot) fouls as possible.

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    Not sure, Suns have more talent -- but Gentry is also in his first season as a WCSC+ coach, and his first full season as HC of the Suns. Pops should have all of his tricks in the bag. I think it's a talent issue, not coaching.

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    Not only this but that layup from manu that he got called for travelling was just ridiculous.
    When LeBron makes that move it's a "Crab Dribble". The guy is gifted with great athleticism, but he's obnoxious and the league has made him that much more arrogant.

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    LeBron is allowed to play in another league from just about everyone else in the league primarily because of his athleticism (e.g. He doesn't get called for goaltending on those come from behind blocks when the ball is clearly over the cylinder beecause the refs are in awe of his closing time/speed and give him the benefit of the doubt, etc.). He claims he's a "no excuse" kind of guy but has an excuse for every major blunder he encounters, and weak ones at that.

    If he were to win a championship he'd become a bigger monster than the one he himself claimed those who adored him in High School made him in terms of ego. JMHO.
    You make a great case, I can't refute any of that. It's precisely his athleticism and skill though that I can't get over along with his IQ, I can't help but enjoy watching him play. He's not a Spur, so I don't care I don't worry about him dancing sometimes or having fun out there. One of the reasons why I now support him though is because of how low my view of Jordan has dropped. After the kind of bitter -baggery he pulled in his induction ceremony, I want LeBron to eventually go down as better than Jordan. And since the media and everyone always brings up championship count as a huge argument (indeed it is important), I want him to rack a few up and continue crushing the stat sheets.

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    It was just switches, how about the free throw shooting? Tim Duncan needs to ing step up at the free throw line. It amazes me how players miss free shots..

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    You make a great case, I can't refute any of that. It's precisely his athleticism and skill though that I can't get over along with his IQ, I can't help but enjoy watching him play. He's not a Spur, so I don't care I don't worry about him dancing sometimes or having fun out there. One of the reasons why I now support him though is because of how low my view of Jordan has dropped. After the kind of bitter -baggery he pulled in his induction ceremony, I want LeBron to eventually go down as better than Jordan. And since the media and everyone always brings up championship count as a huge argument (indeed it is important), I want him to rack a few up and continue crushing the stat sheets.
    He has an immense amount of athleticism and great court vision but some of his other attributes are enhanced by the failure of referees to officiate him like they do other players in the league....even other Superstarts for that matter.

    Well, you have your reasons and I was never a big Jordan fan in general, but LeBron has acted an ass himself on many occasions and I think a ring would only make matters worse, especially with Shaq as an influence who's les did wonders for his ego.

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    bring back the strategy of letting amare get 40 pts a game and stopping everyone else.

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    He has an immense amount of athleticism and great court vision but some of his other attributes are enhanced by the failure of referees to officiate him like they do other players in the league....even other Superstarts for that matter.

    Well, you have your reasons and I was never a big Jordan fan in general, but LeBron has acted an ass himself on many occasions and I think a ring would only make matters worse, especially with Shaq as an influence who's les did wonders for his ego.
    Don't pull that ref nonsense. His attributes are all to his credit. Saying a guy who can shoot at such a high% with such high volume, who pulls down tons of rebounds and dishes tons of assists on any given night...what are attributes are you speaking of that are enhanced by the refs? Come on man, any guy at his age who makes the triple double seem like cake basically every single night is a great player. Lebron's a stud, saying he isn't is just unintelligent, or simply some personal bias you may have. If Lebron isn't to the standards I'm speaking of, then quite frankly, you might as well say Manu is as good as Nick Van Exel.

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    anything doesn't work in the faovr of spurs, FT is such a disaster. that being said, pop didn't do anythinhg spectacular. from what i saw till game 3, suns coach is more freeflowing type, he let the players to run the play. spurs isn't that type of team, pop call plays which just didn't work out. excessive coaching hurts us this time, maybe its better for the players find the rythem and adjust themselves

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    Well, you have your reasons and I was never a big Jordan fan in general, but LeBron has acted an ass himself on many occasions and I think a ring would only make matters worse, especially with Shaq as an influence who's les did wonders for his ego.
    I don't think so. I honestly think it's much more to do with Shaq's personality. He's always doin goofy , trying to have a rap career, staring in laughable movies like Kazaam... He is who he is. And I don't think his ego is unreasonable, he naturally commands a lot of attention (on and off the court) being the tall and enormous mammoth that he is who was coordinated and athletic for his size as he was. Top two most dominant players of all time (maybe the most). You can't expect every legend to be like Tim Duncan, explaining why there are so few of guys like him.

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    anything doesn't work in the faovr of spurs, FT is such a disaster. that being said, pop didn't do anythinhg spectacular. from what i saw till game 3, suns coach is more freeflowing type, he let the players to run the play. spurs isn't that type of team, pop call plays which just didn't work out. excessive coaching hurts us this time, maybe its better for the players find the rythem and adjust themselves
    Not really, the Suns have been that way for years, it's how they are utilized best. Spurs are different, without Pop they wouldn't have won those championships. Excessive coaching didn't hurt, my opinion is simply the actual coaching wasn't close to being optimal.

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    When you don't have the sportsmanship or character to shake the hand of the oppossing team when they beat you, you are no one to be respected....ever. Can you seriously picture Tim, Manu, Tony, Pop, or any of the Spurs players behaving like that? Of course not, they are champions unlike Lebron.

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    Tactically we had three failures last night that caused us the game. These are problems we've had all series, and highlights the inability of Simulator Crew (Pop and co.) to adjust on the fly in series with anything other than starting lineup changes.

    1. Protect the three point line. How hard is it, really?

    2. No hard playoff D. Nash and Dragic have basically run layup drills on us. Barbosa too. No one nailed Goran's ass last night. After about the 6th-8th point, someone should have put him into the basket support on one of his drives. Where's Robert Horry when you need him? This team is soft.

    3. Pick and roll D. Phoenix used it all year against us in the regular season to beat us. They knew we liked to switch. You'd think Pop would have picked up on that from those regular season games, and put in some hedges, traps, etc. of the PnR. Here we are down 3-0 and all the Suns are doing for their offense every freakin' play is a high center pick and roll. Wake the up Pop.

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    Injuries really hurt us, when you get to this stage in the playoffs the team that execute the best will advance. This year the Spurs never really got a chance to jell. At one point we had the best bench in the league, when Manu was with that unit. But injuries and inconsistent play from Jefferson, Mason, Bogans, and especially Parker, Manu and Tim never allowed this team to get into a flow. They did well in Mav's sereis, but the Mavs also made some major changes during the season and it caught up to them at a bad time the playoffs.

    Yes Pop stuck with the guys he had, he waited on Mason too long, bonner's hand injury set him back he was never really the same after, Parker's hand injury also hurt but it hurt mre when he returned and the team was on a roll. People will say how the Sun's backups are better than the Spurs but the reality is that the system and the execution from playing in that way and manner all season long gave that unit confidence in themselves and in what they are doing. And that is coaching. that is creating an identiy for what you are and how you are going to goa bout your business. And win games. Obviously this team lost it's iden y in this series. They have come up on a better team. So our weaknesses are being exposed big time.

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    Such a ing joke.

    " Pop is to blame."

    Give me a ing break.

    Hill, Jefferson and Tony combined 7 for 33.

    The team shot 11 for 23 at the free throw line.

    The transition defense was pathetic leaving Richardson wide open numerous times.

    Pop is not to blame.

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    Its not on Pop. Its on players making mistakes and playing that defense poorly.

    Pop also did not miss 7 FF's in a row.
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    I thought Pop did an excellent job in the Dallas series, but not really this one, that's just me. Of course it wasn't nearly all of his fault, but the Spurs still put up a lot of points in every game. Somehow someway, they put points on the board, but the defensive scheme was a complete failure. I think that had a much bigger effect than scoring slightly less than what the Spurs would have say if Hill showed up one or two games. Not every player plays well in the same game, not during the Mavs series either. It just can't always happen.

    The Spurs shot 45.8%, 50.6%, and 50% in games 1, 2, and 3 respectively. And they lost all three of them. What's particularly interesting is that in game 2, this is what happened:

    Spurs shot 50.6%, Suns shot 42.4%..quite a big difference, and still lost by 8 points. Spurs even turned the ball over less times, only 12 in that game. Free Throws and the 3-Ball baby! They ed us.
    Not to nit-pick, but we lost game 2 because of rebounds, they got 18 offensive rebounds. That lost the game.

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    It was just switches, how about the free throw shooting? Tim Duncan needs to ing step up at the free throw line. It amazes me how players miss free shots..
    Great Point here If Timmay can put some effort on these dang free throws and our supposed shooting coach pull his head out his arse maybe we have a chance..

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    I thought Pop did an excellent job in the Dallas series, but not really this one, that's just me. Of course it wasn't nearly all of his fault, but the Spurs still put up a lot of points in every game. Somehow someway, they put points on the board, but the defensive scheme was a complete failure. I think that had a much bigger effect than scoring slightly less than what the Spurs would have say if Hill showed up one or two games. Not every player plays well in the same game, not during the Mavs series either. It just can't always happen.

    The Spurs shot 45.8%, 50.6%, and 50% in games 1, 2, and 3 respectively. And they lost all three of them. What's particularly interesting is that in game 2, this is what happened:

    Spurs shot 50.6%, Suns shot 42.4%..quite a big difference, and still lost by 8 points. Spurs even turned the ball over less times, only 12 in that game. Free Throws and the 3-Ball baby! They ed us.
    The defensive scheme was a good one, the execution was bad. PHX deserves credit for that.

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