Umm Hill got out played by a forty three year old someone twice his age...so I guess he needs to go?
Duncan,Manu,Parker,Hill,Blair,Mcdyess should stay
Mason,Bonner,Mahammi,Hariston should go
I'm not too sure about Bogans,Temple,Gee
for the next 3 years, Manu will be Robert Horry 2.0, with a little more ability and production, and 2x the price, it's done, we must accept it.
It seems that the team has quit on Pop, which is a terrible sign.
I have been a Pop backer up until now, I am changing my mind, He needs to go back to being the GM only or something front office capacity-wise. The only problem I have with that is I don't know who would replace him, I have no answers, my coach Bud. He has been reluctant to play Ian, Hairston, Temple, etc. which I think is hurting, they have very little or no chance to show what they are able to do. When they have been played they have shown some promise.
I am disappointed in RJ, he has been a bust pretty much, we need to find a way to move him.
McDyess has also been a let down, sure he has played better in the playoffs, but he is a s of the NBA player he once was.
I would like to see Tim do for the team what DRob did for the team when Tim came on board, concentrate on "D" and defer the the main scoring eventualy to Ian, Splitter(if he comes next year). I think Ian could excel if given a steady in game chance next year.
If we are to trade people, it needs to be done smartly, and I am not going to just say trade someone for the heck of it without saying anyone specific.
Something has to be done in the way of roster/coaching changes, I am not sure if anything viable can be done though.
If we keep essentially the same personel, I always have been and will be a total Spurs fan, allbeit a disappointed one.
Hairston needs to go with the rest of the inferior players. We need guys who can shoot and play defense both.
Tp, George Hill, and Manu are the best 3 guard lineups against compe ion.
Having Hill, Ginobilli, and parker is selling out your playbook. It's potent to a certain part but it makes your offense one dimensional.
that's like having Jovorski Lane, Tim Tebow, and Peterson in I formation with 3 TE's for every play.
It's tough, but if the Spurs wanted to remain at least compe ive for Tim's last years, they had to re-sign Manu. He will absolutely not be worth his contract by the last year, but he deserved it. It made sense if the Spurs were not ready to go into full re-build mode.
Knowing the fickle fans around here, they will be cursing Manu like RJ by the time his last year rolls around.
RJ, Bonner, Mason, Bogans have to go. Everyone else has to stay. I don't know what they can do to realistically be "true contenders" but they will be compe ive and have a nice young base to start rebuilding with over the next 3 years while still being compe ive.
Think simple numbers-- The salaries of Nash, Amare, and Richardson are approximately equal to those of Duncan, Manu, and Tony. What the Spurs are paying for Jefferson, the Suns are using to pay for: Hill, Barbosa, Dragic, Dudley, and Frye.
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Wait until Splitter does not want to sign with the Spurs and they trade his rights to dump Jefferson's contract!!
Teaching somebody to shoot is probably the easiest thing to teach in basketball..it's all repe ion..as bad as Hairston's jump shot currently is, there has actually been a big improvement..his jump shot % was 7% higher this season compared to last, despite shooting a lot more of them this season..there's an even bigger improvement when you look at him in college..
If he doesn't look good in SL and preseason, they should dump him, but teaching a young player to shoot is relatively easy TBH..
I agree though, Hairston's shot will have to get better for him to be a rotation player here, no-brainer..giving up on him before preseason is stupid though..I hope Hairston and Gee are both on the roster next season, Spurs need as many cheap athletes as possible..they're both elite athletes, Spurs need players like that instead of guys like Mason and Bogans..
Last edited by HarlemHeat37; 05-08-2010 at 05:15 PM.
At this point? You do know he is the reason this team has four rings?
Only players I feel "must go", for the betterment of the team, are Roger Mason Jr. and Matt Bonner. Everybody else arguably could have a place next season (imho). Both of them though, to me, personify what was handicapping our team in 2008-2009, and part of what was wrong this season. One dimensional offensively, lacking height and size, not defensive factors, and players who other teams (Wizards, Raptors) felt were expendable prior to being Spurs. If either one of these players is resigned for anything close to the amount they're making now, I'd continue to lose faith in the Spurs talent evaluation and overall outlook on compiling a defense-oriented roster.
manu should be the only untradeable.
Tim can no longer carry a team to a championship. He is old. The only reason not to trade him is you are unlikely to get fair value back.
pop real needs to go.
Seriously? You're not sure about Bogans? and imho Mahinmi and Hairston should stay.
Why is Manu untradeable, but Tim isn't?..
manu=fan favorite
puts people in stands
hispanic in a hispanic town
Bonner needs to be taken to pasture. Die you worthless piece of and all of his apologists.
Mason hopefully has AIDS, because no team, except maybe the Mavs, deserves that bas stinkin up their roster.
I think RJ will be with us next season and I think he will have a more solid season. Whatever happened to it taking two years for players to become good Spurs? Horry sucked in 04 as did Barry but both came up huge in 05 in pivotal playoff moments. Finley torched Denver with all those threes in 07 after a somewhat disappointing 06 series versus Dallas. And all this notwithstanding their better second regular seasons. Speaking of which, Blair is going to be a beast next season if Pop gives him some decent burn. I say why waste money on Splitter, when you have a potential 8-10 rebounds in Blair for a fraction of the price? Back to Jeff... I also see Pop tuning and adjusting to work with Jeff's style. I think he's going to incorporate alot of running next season after this Phoenix debacle.
Bogans should go too. As far as the youngins, keep Temple, Hairston, his jumper is as atrocious, if not more than, Bonner's. Mahinimi can go too. Blair will beast, just get a 4th option and there is a plethora of big men that can play the clean up role on the cheap this offseason.
Or if we could find a way to trade Tony for a productive big man, ala David Lee, then scrap the budget big man plan, re-sign Temple and trust in he and George Hill to run the point and maybe sign a vet. swingman that can handle the point too.
Just keep a solid core of Tim, Manu, George, Dice because of his contract, Jeff, Blair, Temple and Tony but if a trade works out in favor of us, let him go.
Personal foul. Unsportsmanlike conduct. 15 yards.
tp hit lots of jumpers in game 2 in gam 3 he was short due to his shoulder injury dumbass
dude hit 2 threes also
I was going to say something like this earlier, in the RJ thread.Back to Jeff... I also see Pop tuning and adjusting to work with Jeff's style. I think he's going to incorporate alot of running next season after this Phoenix debacle.
15 mil next season is a huge chunk of salary on one guy, so maybe the spurs could alter their style of play slightly for RJ to be beneficial and not a waste.
I don't really think we need to trade any of the Big 3. RJ is probably a good candidate if somebody wants to take him. Honestly, it's tempting to think we need more star players, but the reality is what we need is better role players. Guys that are hungry, want to play defense and when they're out there play hard within their limitations. You look at this series, and guys like Frye, Duddley, Dragic... they're not stars. They're not all super athletic. They're not all super-defenders. But they're hungry. They go out there and are determined to make an impact.
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