Well, it's basically the equivalent of everyone saying the Suns traded Rajon Rondo when Boston told them to take Rajon Rondo with the pick. Marcus Williams was still on the board and most people considered him the best PG in the draft that year. It's a mistake fans always make when analyzing draft day trades and I'm not sure why.
The Suns did an excellent job of scouting to focus in on Dragic, and the Spurs were the beneficiary of Phoenix' wish to move up a few spots. That's the definition of a win/win scenario, because the alternative is not the Spurs picking Dragic, it's the Spurs picking Hairston and not having Blair.
And you need to add Marion to that, also.
I really don't think Barbosa would have worked out in Pop's system, either.
I disagree with both - Dragic and Barbosa. Already stated what we got fo Dragic. Hairston + cash + ultimately Blair. ava deal for the Spurs regardless of what he jus did to the Spurs.The Spurs need to stop drafting for the Suns (and the Rockets for that matter).
Dragic is the type of player that the Spurs would have drafted and kept in earlier years. Barbosa, too.
Looking forward, they definitely need to make the Splitter pick pay off.
As for Barbosa - traded to the Suns for a 1st round pick in 2005. That was traded to the NYK for Nazr and he was very instrumental in the championship run in 2005.
So you would have kept Barbosa and most likely sacrificed a ring? Really?
PS : NYK picked David Lee so both sides made out on that trade.
If Blair had had gotten more minutes and continue his ass-kicking ways, the Dragic cries wouldn't be as loud.
Dragic would have definitely have been nice to have, but I can't be too mad when the Spurs turned that mid 2nd round pick into Blair and Hairston. Blair fills a position the Spurs desperately needed help at, and he's going to be a very solid player going forward.
Haha, how do people get this way?
Exactly.
The only reason the Suns are where they are is because they had a coach who was committed to developing the youth even when it was hurting the team. Just look at Dudley and Dragic. And that's not even bringing up Robin Lopez who will make the Suns a good deal better if he comes back healthy.
The Dragic trade was fine, but I don't understand why people are labeling it as "Dragic for Blair & Hairston & cash".
Let's be real. The trade was only for Blair, and there the Spurs got lucky. Hairston is doghoused and won't get out. The only reason there was even a "THC" or a pro-Hairston movement at all was because Michael Finley wanted out. Without Finley hitting the button for the ejector seat, Hairston never would have continued to see the court even for regular season scrub time.
I still prefer Blair to Dragic, but it cannot be argued...
Playoff games single handedly won..
Dragic 1
Blair 0
[QUOTE=hsxvvd;4330342]I still prefer Blair to Dragic, but it cannot be argued...
Playoff games single handedly won..
Dragic 1
Blair 0[/QUOTE
I'm sure you know this, but the spurs didn't trade Blair for Dragic! It was Dragic for Hairston. Hairston has some great athleticism and potential. Hopefully this doens't end up looking as bad as the Scola trade!
With all due respect, objective . . .
What ya know 'bout T. H. C?
Seriously, though, unless you know something I don't, Pop never inquired about Coalition membership. It's been a movement of the people (a small group since his rookie season) by the people (that same group, but grew in size as Finley, Mason and Bogans were exposed to the masses for what they were) and ultimately for the people: Spursnation.
The movement didn't come to bear upon him seeing limited playing time when Finley wanted out (though, the bandwagon began to overflow), it's been going strong since Day-One of this year -- when he outplayed Bogans in every facet of the game when the job was supposedly up for grabs.
But THC is hopeful that one day you'll realize Mr. Mahinmi is of no threat to The Coalition. He's neither compe or nor conflict of interest. We're an inclusive group and an avid supporter of equal rights (to young, talented, athletic and under-utilized players). We're looking to make progress for the fellow Man and we're not apposed to branching out and joining forces with like-minded groups; help me, scratch that, us, help you and your cause.
Strength in numbers ... let's not tear each other down.
In the wise words of Mr. King:
God bless.
you know the point I was making though. It wasn't about you or people who intelligently saw in preseason that Hairston should get time over Blowgans. (sorry for the inappropriate misspelling of his name).
It's about Pop and the organization. They didn't want those guys around this year, not really. It didn't matter how well they played when given opportunities or how poorly the people ahead of them played, they were done.
So that's why I don't get people including Hairston in Dragic trade talk. Technically, yes, Hairston was involved. But it's not like he's been a player for the Spurs, they don't even want him. , they already cut him once. Next year they'll bring back Bogans or sign some other useless vet scrub to play ahead of him before they cut Hairston's unguaranteed contract. It's what they do.
The Spurs traded Dragic for Hairston and the Blair pick, so yes, they did effectively trade for Blair. Without that pick from Phoenix, no way they land Blair with their own pick (at 51).
good call.
sour grapes? i think at the time didnt we also had beno on the team
Unfortunately for the Spurs, the Suns player Dragic had the game of his career at a pretty crucial time for this Spurs team, the 4th quarter in last nights game. When trades happen no team on Earth can peer into the future and see how players or picks pan out. I'd take Blair over Dragic anyday, he just happen to have the game of his career at the Spurs expense last night, it was pretty incredible actually.
Right now the Spurs have to focus on not getting swept and winning the next game. If they win game 4 and go to Phoenix and lose game 5 perhaps it could light a fire under this team for next season to get better and give it another try. I think Duncan needs a good athletic big to help him out and the Spurs need better shooters, some changes need to be made but the Spurs can compete for an NBA le next season if they can't turn this series around.
spurs don't need hill and dragic. hill had the game of his career against the mavs and dragic had the game of his career against the spurs.
I'll try to explain this again: The Spurs would not have kept Dragic. He was not their pick. They got the pick they used on Blair as payment for picking Dragic for the Suns to keep him away from someone that picked after San Antonio and before Phoenix.
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