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  1. #1
    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    We have too many one-dimensional players: "offensive" players who can't defend and can't always hit their shots (Terry, Barea) "defensive" players who can't score consistently (Marion, Dampier, Stevenson), and other players who don't consistently play well on both sides of the ball, even though they are supposed to be two-way players (Butler, Kidd, Haywood). I shudder at the thought of Jason Kidd being our 38-yr-old starting PG.

    The following is a list of what I think is out there that can be acquired. In some cases, like the premier free agents (LeBron, Wade, Amare, Bosh, Johnson), etc. I think these are slim long shots. If a player isn't listed, it's because I don't think they have any interest in trading that player to the Mavs for anything that we would want (ex. Kevin Durant and OKC).

    Atlantic Division:

    NYK - Tracy McGrady MLE, Al Harrington MLE
    BOS - Ray Allen MLE, Nate Robinson MLE, Marquis Daniels LLE, Tony Allen LLE
    PHI - Willie Green, Andre Iguodala, Elton Brand trade targets
    TOR - Chris Bosh trade target

    SE Division:

    Atlanta: Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams trade targets, Joe Smith LLE
    Charlotte: Tyson Chandler, Stephen Jackson trade targets
    Miami: Dwyane Wade trade target, Quentin Richardson MLE
    Orlando: Marcin Gortat trade target
    Washington: Mike Miller MLE, Randy Foye trade target

    Central Division:

    Chicago: Kirk Hinrich trade target, Hakim Warrick LLE
    Cleveland: LeBron James trade target
    Detroit: Kwame Brown LLE, Will Bynum LLE, Tayshaun Prince trade target
    Indiana: Troy Murphy trade target
    Milwaukee: John Salmons MLE, Kurt Thomas LLE,

    SW Division:

    Memphis: Zach Randolph trade target, Rudy Gay trade target, Ronnie Brewer MLE

    NW Division:

    Minnesota: Darko Milicic LLE, Al Jefferson trade target
    Utah: Carlos Boozer trade target

    Pacific Division:

    Golden State: Monta Ellis, Corey Maggette, Kelenna Azubuike, Anthony Morrow trade targets
    LA Clippers: Baron Davis, Chris Kaman trade targets, Drew Gooden MLE, Rasual Butler LLE
    Phoenix: Amare Stoudemire trade target, Louis Amundson LLE
    Sacramento: Francisco Garcia trade target

    Draft targets: Solomon Alabi, Jordan Crawford, Lance Stephenson, Willie Warren

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    1. Resign Dirk to 3-year extension after he opts out.
    2. Resign Haywood at reasonable price.
    3. ?????

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    Kirk Hinrich would be a pretty underrated pickup. He could play 26 minutes a night at PG for us - solid PG defender, can run an offense competently, I think he could complement Kidd well.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Who are you?

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    Knowledge Is Hassle Fpoonsie's Avatar
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    Gladjur back, Fin. (no )

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    We already have one of these I think. I guess this is the new one.

    Im gonna wreck next year.

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    can spurs and dallas merge next year?

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    Always Stay Ready Rick Carlisle's Avatar
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    We already have one of these I think. I guess this is the new one.

    Im gonna wreck next year.
    What. The. .
    You are not ready to be a spurstalk troll. Log the out.

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    can spurs and dallas merge next year?
    That team for sure could get to the Conference Finals.

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    Man you were itching to press "post" for like two weeks, weren't you?

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    What. The. .
    You are not ready to be a spurstalk troll. Log the out.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Man you were itching to press "post" for like two weeks, weren't you?
    Not really, because I knew it would only be a 14-day "timeout." It's not like the Spurs were gonna make a deep playoff run.

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    What. The. .
    You are not ready to be a spurstalk troll. Log the out.
    Oh sory. Im vewy sorry. I guess I haven't shown you enough. I will twy bettear for now on.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Highly possible they revisit acquiring Gortat. I don't know 100% that they'll re-sign Haywood. He's saying all the right things now, but he's been pissing and moaning for weeks now.

    Kelenna re-upped with GS this week. Darko is heading back to Europe.

    I like Monta Ellis and I'm 80% certain Drew Gooden is back here.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    Highly possible they revisit acquiring Gortat. I don't know 100% that they'll re-sign Haywood. He's saying all the right things now, but he's been pissing and moaning for weeks now.

    Kelenna re-upped with GS this week. Darko is heading back to Europe.

    I like Monta Ellis and I'm 80% certain Drew Gooden is back here.

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    Always Stay Ready Rick Carlisle's Avatar
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    Oh sory. Im vewy sorry. I guess I haven't shown you enough. I will twy bettear for now on.
    no you haven't shown me enough. Your disposition has been terrible, and thats been your undoing, you French got.

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    38 is just a number. Kidd is a fine starting PG in this league, especially in the regular season. What athleticism does he have left anyway? If he shoots the 3 like he did last year, it's no big deal. Just give him some athletic compliments in the back court (Beaubois, maybe a guy like Iguodala) and reduce his minutes by 5-8 minutes or so.

    Its D-Whistle or bust boys.

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    Welcome back Findog.

    2 questions

    1) Is your Dad doing OK now?

    and

    2) How was that KFC sandwhich?


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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Not really, because I knew it would only be a 14-day "timeout." It's not like the Spurs were gonna make a deep playoff run.
    I thought you had the winner of Dallas-Spurs penciled in for the WCF?
    Good to see you back.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Highly possible they revisit acquiring Gortat. I don't know 100% that they'll re-sign Haywood. He's saying all the right things now, but he's been pissing and moaning for weeks now.

    Kelenna re-upped with GS this week. Darko is heading back to Europe.

    I like Monta Ellis and I'm 80% certain Drew Gooden is back here.
    I like Gortat at MLE numbers for 4 years. A Gortat/Haywood tandem is about as good as you can manage if you don't have a Howard, Horford, Bogut, Ming, etc.

    I wouldn't pay Haywood any more than $8 million a year for 5 years, so I would let him walk if he gets $10 million per for 5 years.

    As for Ellis, I think he's a volume scorer on a bad team, and he doesn't add anything to this team that Roddy doesn't have. But then I think about Marquis Daniels rookie year and what he turned out to be, and I realize Roddy isn't a lock to make it.

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    Welcome back Findog.

    2 questions

    1) Is your Dad doing OK now?

    and

    2) How was that KFC sandwhich?

    He's fine, thanks for asking.

    The Double Down is horrifying. I got the grilled version, but it was missing the bacon and "zesty" sauce, and so it was just two gray chicken fillets with some white cheese glop pressed between them. Gross.

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    Big like a pickle. Shank's Avatar
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    You got the grilled one? Did you see the nutritional numbers on it? Did you get fooled into thinking it was healthy?

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    Parker/Nash/Wade Roddy Beaubois's Avatar
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    Its D-Whistle or bust boys.
    Dont know what your fascination with the whistler is. If were talking pipe dreams, we got a better shot at getting Lebron than Wade. Wade is either in Chicago or Miami next year imo. Joe Johnson would be a nice piece as well.

    As of now we are entering the season with a Kidd/Roddy/Butler/Dirk/Haywood lineup, but I hope we get a starter with the Dust chip. But starting Roddy is an intriguing idea. He guards the PG's and slashes to the basket on offense. I honestly hope Roddy and Kidd are going 60/40 by the end of next year in terms of pg minutes.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Mavs I'm sure will make a hard push for one of the premier FAs, but I doubt we get any of them. That's why my list has other players that I think are available targets.

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    Parker/Nash/Wade Roddy Beaubois's Avatar
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    Mavs I'm sure will make a hard push for one of the premier FAs, but I doubt we get any of them.
    what makes you say that?


    Biggest FA pickups in Cubans tenure: Damp and Marion.


    Oh, right.

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