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    you wish

    Parker is going nowhere.

    Only possible trade is for an elite PG. As stated 50000 times Hill is a pure SG, Manu cannot run the point a whole season because he will loose his Offensive mojo, Spurs have no time to develop a young PG and you don't trade your most reliable PO player offensively and yes defensively.

    Next year, TP and Hill will start, Manu will come off the bench. Spurs will try to improve the roster around the big 3 + blair + hill + maybe Ian, Temple and Hairston. If we land Splitter, the biggest work will be what to do with RJ (odds are RJ will stay) then work well the draft and sign some FAs for Mason, Bonner and Dice (if he retires) spots.
    Why would I wish that ?

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    The fact that you would trade Parker instead of Jefferson is ing beyond me. How can that be true?
    i'm not a trade specialist so i won't go into some sophisticated scenarii.

    Thing is, you win rings in the paint. Vintage TD needed little help in the past (Old Drob, Nazr, Rasho...) to dominate. This is not true anymore...

    Bottom line is: no matter how good Parker, Hill or Manu play next season, without an all star bigman, the Spurs don't go nowhere. IMO, Blair and Ian are too young, Dyess is too old... As for Splitter, he still has to play one single game in this league.

    So how do you get this kind of player before TD retire? There is no perfect answer to that question but the FO should consider every option. And as painful as it is, trading Parker is one of them.

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    Why would I wish that ?
    let me see....

    cauz you don't like him?

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    The fact that you would trade Parker instead of Jefferson is ing beyond me. How can that be true?
    What dumb team would want to just take RJ? It's funny how crazy people get just because you suggest a trade. Tp is the only Spur that could land the Spurs something right now, you have 2 of the big 3 that can not sustain their dominance 24/7. Manu and Tim were completely out of gas and they need serious help so that doesn't happen again. Tp is a great player and is a big part of this team but he is the only way Spurs could get anything else of value.

    Our big 3 has just to many miles to be a legit big 3 in the NBA anymore.

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    let me see....

    cauz you don't like him?
    Oh, I hate him

    A lot

    But I hate Bonner more

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    Parker is one of the few things on this team that actually works still. This team needs a starting big, a few shooters and bench depth. We have a pretty good 3 guard rotation with Hill, Gino and Tony. For a team with so little depth at nearly every position it does not make sense to thin out what is our most serviceable depth position.

    Unfortunately, we're not getting rid of RJ for obvious reasons. Would be nice if Blairs 6'7" ass could develop a semblance of an mid-range game so that we could play him as SF / PF instead of a solid PF where he presents size mismatches for us.

    I've no idea what Splitter will contribute to us if he even comes over next year, but if he does prove to be at least a serviceable bench big man that would be huge for us.

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    When I first saw the le; I thought this was going to be a thank you to Parker for how he did in the playoffs all the way to the end...


    Thats what I thought too.

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    When I first saw the le; I thought this was going to be a thank you to Parker for how he did in the playoffs all the way to the end...
    My thread wasn't a get-Tony-Parker-out-of-SA-asap thread, I did acknowledge his efforts in the playoffs. It was clear to see he was a true warrior out there. And I also thanked him for all these years he's been a Spur.

    Tony is one of my favorite players. He's great. But the Spurs need a change, and that change is getting Richard Jefferson out of SA somehow. How else will that happen if the Spurs don't offer something valuable? Parker's just out of luck because of this.

    With that being said, if my speculation came to reality, Ginobili and Hill are both PG/SG's. That is a good backcourt. And the $$$ relief would allow the Spurs to get a little more help there as well as in the front court.

    But hey, I'm all for Tony Parker to stay, really. I'm no Parker hater at all. He's my third favorite Spur. So if the Spurs can trade Jefferson w/o including Parker in a deal, that'd be awesome. But like our friend John Hollinger said, the Spurs would also like to trade Malik Hairston for Lebron James.

    Other than that, if the Spurs stay with Parker (and Jefferson), aka the same team as this year, SA can't expect to contend for a championship.

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    Hill isn't ready for prime time yet - if they are going to trade parker they need to get a least one real PG in exchange

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    Parker's most obvious asset was his speed.

    It's obvious that he has slowed down.
    It is also very obvious that ankle injuries and age don't necessary translate into more speed next season.

    It was also clear that he has been a significant defensive liability for most of the season.
    This and the lack of 3 points range is NOT going to change.

    He is very unlikely to evolve into a playmaker a-la Ginobili or Nash.

    We will see a steady decline of his contribution.

    The difference between Parker and Jefferson is clear: you get someone worth something trading the former, you have to ADD someone worth something to get rid of the latter.

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    Parker's most obvious asset was his speed.

    It's obvious that he has slowed down.
    Obvious for whom ? have you seen the game last night ? TP has been slowing down by injuries during the RS, it has not been the case during the POs.

    It is also very obvious that ankle injuries and age don't necessary translate into more speed next season.
    He is still in his prime if he can rest and have a season without injuries, he will be just fine.

    It was also clear that he has been a significant defensive liability for most of the season.
    he had bad stretches but he is still the best defender we have against elite PGs and like always his Defense was more than ok during the POs.

    This and the lack of 3 points range is NOT going to change.
    Nostradamus? One thing is certain it is not natural for him to shoot the 3 unless he is wide open but untill now his lack of shooting was not really a problem because he developed a nice long JS. Maybe in the near future he will be obliged to work that and I'm confident he will be successful.

    He is very unlikely to evolve into a playmaker a-la Ginobili or Nash.
    So what ? He is our best option as of today, Hill cannot run the point and Manu won't have the gas to do that during a whole season, next year spurs will try to monitor his mintes.

    We will see a steady decline of his contribution.

    The difference between Parker and Jefferson is clear: you get someone worth something trading the former, you have to ADD someone worth something to get rid of the latter.
    TP will stay in SA unless the FO trade him for another elite PG.

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    If the Spurs plan is for George Hill to be the long-term solution at SG then their FO is a uva lot dumber than I thought. You can't compete in this league with a 6-2 shooting guard.
    Bingo. Hill is being groomed for a PG, and I'm not convinced he has the potential to reach TP's level of play. And Hill's defense is vastly OVERRATED.

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    My thread wasn't a get-Tony-Parker-out-of-SA-asap thread, I did acknowledge his efforts in the playoffs. It was clear to see he was a true warrior out there. And I also thanked him for all these years he's been a Spur.

    Tony is one of my favorite players. He's great. But the Spurs need a change, and that change is getting Richard Jefferson out of SA somehow. How else will that happen if the Spurs don't offer something valuable? Parker's just out of luck because of this.

    With that being said, if my speculation came to reality, Ginobili and Hill are both PG/SG's. That is a good backcourt. And the $$$ relief would allow the Spurs to get a little more help there as well as in the front court.

    But hey, I'm all for Tony Parker to stay, really. I'm no Parker hater at all. He's my third favorite Spur. So if the Spurs can trade Jefferson w/o including Parker in a deal, that'd be awesome. But like our friend John Hollinger said, the Spurs would also like to trade Malik Hairston for Lebron James.

    Other than that, if the Spurs stay with Parker (and Jefferson), aka the same team as this year, SA can't expect to contend for a championship.
    I agree with everything you're saying.

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    Parker won't be traded. It's even likely that he gets an extension this summer.

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    Parker won't be traded. It's even likely that he gets an extension this summer.
    If he doesn't play for France, I'm sure it will be discussed.

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    If he doesn't play for France, I'm sure it will be discussed.
    I don't think he will play with the NT this summer mainly because he wants to sign an extension.

    Anyway, Parker will give his answer for the NT this week. I would be damn surprised if Parker is in.

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    I don't think he will play with the NT this summer mainly because he wants to sign an extension.

    Anyway, Parker will give his answer for the NT this week. I would be damn surprised if Parker is in.
    Me too... everything I'm hearing is that he isn't going to play.

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    What’s your schedule now ?
    I’m going to take some rest in San Antonio. I need to cut to get back on my feet. We’ll go on vacation at the end of June and right after that, I’ll go to my summer camp in Fécamp.

    Do you think of the French National Team ?
    I want to put basketball aside for the moment. But the national team will catch me up quickly since the Spurs staff wants to meet me soon to talk about this summer. We’ll know more this week. I don’t know what the Spurs want to do. So I can’t tell what’s going to happen .
    If he does play for France then he should definitely be on the trade block. He didn't even finish as a top 50 PER player this regular season and didn't crack the top 40 in the playoffs either.

    If he plays for France that will make the FO uneasy since the window's shorter than ever and Manu is taking this summer off.

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    Tony will leave when Tim and Manu do
    The only thing i'm interesting in about this thread is the ass like that of your signature. I love it.

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    Me too... everything I'm hearing is that he isn't going to play.
    I think that if its even slightly possible to combine the spurs and naitonal team, he will play. I think he himself just wants to be there this summer, so he will try. If its really impossible and if the spurs are really giving him warnings and let him know his future is uncertain if he does, than he will back out.

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    parker is staying put....

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    Parker won't be traded. It's even likely that he gets an extension this summer.
    I hope so and also hope he gets a full summer of rst

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    You really think a 6-2 shooting guard is a good idea? Really?

    Why not put a 6-0 shooting guard out there? Hey, he would only be 2 inches shorter than Hill!

    or a 6'5 center! oh wait, the rockets have that!*


    * see chuck hayes

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    You really think a 6-2 shooting guard is a good idea? Really?

    Why not put a 6-0 shooting guard out there? Hey, he would only be 2 inches shorter than Hill!

    6'2'' is misleading when you have freakishly long arms

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    Obvious for whom ? have you seen the game last night ? TP has been slowing down by injuries during the RS, it has not been the case during the POs.



    He is still in his prime if he can rest and have a season without injuries, he will be just fine.



    he had bad stretches but he is still the best defender we have against elite PGs and like always his Defense was more than ok during the POs.



    Nostradamus? One thing is certain it is not natural for him to shoot the 3 unless he is wide open but untill now his lack of shooting was not really a problem because he developed a nice long JS. Maybe in the near future he will be obliged to work that and I'm confident he will be successful.



    So what ? He is our best option as of today, Hill cannot run the point and Manu won't have the gas to do that during a whole season, next year spurs will try to monitor his mintes.



    TP will stay in SA unless the FO trade him for another elite PG.
    What did I write?
    Yes Parker will stay and the Spurs' objective will be to make the playoffs, next season.
    They are done as contenders.

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