Spurs need big to help Duncan (Splitter is OK)
Young athletic wing with 3 point range from draft. Robinson, George (dont know about their 3 point range)
Some veteran with 3 point range and decent D. Raja Bell anyone ?
Pop to trust youngs in regular. Blair, Hill, Temle, 2 draft picks, Splitter need to see plenty of minutes to improve their game, and rest Duncan, Gino as long as it possible.
It might be a non-issue but Parker's indecisiveness just isn't good for a Spurs fan. Why dangle this issue when he's had the sharpest dropoff of any of the Spurs big 3 especially when it comes to PER. Considering his health, decline in athleticism, and letting the team down with his performance...should be an easy enough decision if he wants to be on good terms with the Spurs and to chase another
trade him because he's the most likely to leave....hmmmm.....does not compute....
I believe he said he's meeting with the team (Spurs) about it next week, talking about extension, etc. So, should we give him a call and tell him Cane doesn't think that's soon enough?It might be a non-issue but Parker's indecisiveness just isn't good for a Spurs fan. Why dangle this issue when he's had the sharpest dropoff of any of the Spurs big 3 especially when it comes to PER. Considering his health, decline in athleticism, and letting the team down with his performance...should be an easy enough decision if he wants to be on good terms with the Spurs and to chase another
Parker was injured all year. You can't really keep comparing his PER numbers to Manu/Tim to try to prove something.
And just FYI, PER isn't the end all. If it is, then Nazr Mohammed is better than Rajon Rondo, among other things.
I think looking what you could fetch for him is the sensible thing to do. I'm sure they did the same with Manu before the last trade deadline. That said, I don't think you'll get equal value in return. I really think the Spurs will only entertain offers if they figure they can't offer an extension to retain him past next season.
PER's pretty spot on, most of the all-NBA guys and historic greats have had their greatness reflected in this stat which basically combines a players' boxscore contributions. Its also an easy way to demonstrated just how huge of a decline that Tony Parker had since he's been very efficient in the past but now isn't even a top 40/50 player in that area.
And while Parker was injured all year its still worth noting that the best stretch the Spurs had were when Parker was sidelined and Manu ran the point. This, especially if Parker continues to play for France, says that he's expendable if there's a right deal available.
Do you just keep copying and pasting this? You've repeating it several times now.
In the playoffs, Tony averaged 17.3 ppg and 5.4apg. His assist to turnover ratio for the playoffs was 2.5. If you think there is a better player on a team who is willing to trade him, then go ahead and trade. The problem is that there are very few guards that are better than Tony, and none of them are on a team that would trade them.
rofl PER.
manu ran the point mostly when hill was in
so I am not sure why people think hill will replace tp as point guard
The problem is, we trade Parker and we lose some offensive explosion and our goto player. Neither Tim nor Manu can be the #1 option all season if we want to play for a le. Who can we trade Parker for that will shoulder the burden while also improving us in other areas? 1on1 swap won't cut it. We'll need a trade steal.
However, I don't think Holt or the FO has any intention of trading Parker out. RJ is the one who's on his way out. And good riddance. Dude is one of the all-time epic failures in Spur history.
Yea there's a lot of "ifs" like if Parker doesn't play for France and whether or not a deal can be made thats worth a damn. However Tony Parker's trading chip is pretty valuable and this summer is going to be the biggest offseason the NBA has seen in years so there will likely be opportunities to cash-in on. Lots of teams are going to lose their star players and need to revamp their rosters.
You've also been repeating that Parker's been injured and whether or not he's personally contacting me about his plans for France; even though that was addressed in the OP and addressed in my replies of your replies
His numbers are ugly and so is the Spurs situation but it is what it is. After the infamous Pau Gasol trade and given how the Spurs are a team in transition plus Parker's decline while the Spurs were on the rise....lots of stuff to think and talk about in this long offseason.
The only reason in my mind to even think about trading Parker is if you believe you can get better because you can get what you need in exchange for him, not because of how he played this year. Come on, he was hurt virtually the entire year...not fair to judge him. I say give him an injury free year with an injury free Manu year and see how everything fits. You just don't cut loose a player of his abililty unless someone comes in with an offer that really upgrades the team...unlikely in my opinion.
There needs to be a waiting period for posting "trade (inset name)" just after getting bounced from the POs. People need to just chill and reflect on the season. The probability of beating LA in the WCF was small so the WCF was the best this team could have probably done. Though this season was one of the most frustrating ones in many years the Spurs do have some good pieces in place.
Trading TP isn't the answer. And though many think he may represent the best trade assest the Spurs have to offer other teams the Spurs have to get a top fight pg in return or they would be taking a step backwards.
Yeah, I could see TD signing off on a trade to move TP and leaving a gapping hole at pg. And Hill ain't ready to step in that role and I don't believe he ever will. That isn't the position the Spurs are grooming him for - it's sg and sixth man role type of contribution.
Draft picks wont work, either. The Spurs are in a "the future is now" MO. And why would other teams swap top flight PGs? The possibililty of that happening is remote IMHO. So by trading TP the Spurs most likely would be getting either draft picks orscraps in return as Kori already stated.
If you trade TP and don't get a top pg in return then you might as well blow the team up. Trade all your older assets and let the youngsters take over the team.
Pop would then retire and Fabbs would now know his life is complete.
Yes, I think it's the Spurs best chance of improving their team. People were defending this before the playoffs even started, so not all of them are being reactionary.
Either that or moving Jefferson expiring + pick + Splitter/Blair... but what is that going to land them?
If you trade him who do you want back CANE? I'm a huge stat guy and even I can tell you that it has to be an overall picture where multiple stats are needed not just PER or tendex or Points Created or whatever. It has to be a list of things. I can tell you from a per minute standpoint that he played as well as anybody in the playoffs and most certainly was top 4 practically every game for San Antonio.
So again, for who?
His numbers are ugly ? wtf ? what parker's decline ?
Considering the fact that Parker went in the POs after a broken hand injury and he played coming off the bench and Manu became the go to go guy of the team, I don't see parker's decline at all. TP was our most reliable player: in 10 games he had two bad games, game 4 against dallas and game 3 against the suns because of his shoulder. Globally he played as well as we can expected.
During the RS Parker struggled due to injuries but his ppg declined also because he had to give some space to G Hill and RJ, I didn't check but I'm quite sure his FGAs are below last year.
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BS, only PER matters!!
Yea I'm also on the optimistic side when it comes to getting a decent trade in return since the NBA is going to be changing incredibly in the summer. It'll be interesting to see how many star players leave their teams which will put their franchises in revamp mode. Based on that it seems like chances are good that there will be opportunities to cash-in on.
Also, it might be worth noting that both Dallas and Houston will probably get another star player in this upcoming arms race. San Antonio is going to have a lot to deal with when it comes to the other playoffs contenders like the Jazz who swept the Spurs this regular season, PHX who basically swept the Spurs for both the reg season and playoffs, Portland whose been a playoffs contender even without Oden, and just having a poor record in general against their Western playoffs peers.
PER is a great stat and more right that not. Parker used to be incredibly efficient but due to injury and never getting into rhythm he's fallen off the wayside. Even if you ignore PER you can see that Parker struggled throughout the entire season and playoffs more than any other member of the Big 3 and its still worth mentioning again that the Spurs were on the rise and winning against the top teams in the league when Parker was on the sidelines. There's no arguing that Parker was the worst of the big 3 this season and declined the most imo.
The reality is, any kind of major trade might still not be enough. We've gotten to that point where we can't say we'll trade one of the Big 3 and the other 2 will pick up the slack undoubtedly. Just this season we saw a multiple le winning coach and team unable to incorporate a still very talented player in RJ well, and overall underachieve.
VOus etes tous des Parker hayteurs, bordel de merde
So, you think they would have won against the mavs without parker?
"And I guess you don't really get how injured Parker was this year."
and with Manu and Tim both hurting last season, Tony's number were way up as the tried to carry the team, and did a wonderful job.
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