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  1. #51
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    You aren't perfect either.
    Are we in some soap opera?Stop being such an emo.

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    I just had a vision.

    2011... Cowboys stadium... Kidd grabs the rebound and runs the fast break with Lebron, Dirk trailing behind for the 3-PT option.

    GOnna be a big ing party in Dallas next year boys. So much coke and women it'll make your head spin... and a few of these

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    I just had a vision.

    2011... Cowboys stadium... Kidd grabs the rebound and runs the fast break with Lebron, Dirk trailing behind for the 3-PT option.

    GOnna be a big ing party in Dallas next year boys. So much coke and women it'll make your head spin... and a few of these
    lol Mavs
    LOL Mavs
    LOL Mavs

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    The Cavs should be playing Moon (Rondo)-West (ALlen)-LBJ (Pierce) - AV (Garnett) - Hickson (Perkins) as their starting line-up. Rotate Mo, Parker, Jamison and Shaq off the bench.

    I actually agree here except I'd make the slight tweak of starting Jamison over Moon. IMO they should at least experiment with Lebron at SG and Jamison at SF at this point for a few minutes in the 1st quarter. This lineup could do some damage:

    West
    Lebron
    Jamison
    Hickson
    Varejao

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    Are we in some soap opera?Stop being such an emo.

    Ah the "sopa opera" and "emo" cards being used to divert me calling you out. Egotistical people like yourself use those lines of defense when they know deep down it's the truth.



    you only quoted part of my post and ignored the rest of it.

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    This would be completely blasphemous for the Celtics, but what they should do is hand out LeBron James New York Knicks jerseys to every fan in attendance.

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    I actually agree here except I'd make the slight tweak of starting Jamison over Moon. IMO they should at least experiment with Lebron at SG and Jamison at SF at this point for a few minutes in the 1st quarter. This lineup could do some damage:

    West
    Lebron
    Jamison
    Hickson
    Varejao
    I like it.

    West/Allen
    Bron/Rondo
    Jamison/Pierce
    Varejao/Garnett
    Hickson/Perkins

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    He takes too many jumpers -> not good enough of a jump-shooter for the number of jumpers he takes.
    Jamison is a good jumpshooter for his position. And a very good scorer.

    He's only a decent 2nd scoring option when playing next to LeBron, who's good enough to not need a 2nd scoring option.
    You are being ing re ed here. No need to make excuses for Lebron's ty performance. Boston was daring him to shoot jumpers tonight and he obliged. Which allowed their defense to collapse on Jamison.

    Again, Shaq was 7-11 with 12 free throws. Lebron has multiple second options on his team and still can't get it done. That isn't "good enough".

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    By the way Jamison's 2point jumpshot FG% is nearly the same as Durant's. By your logic Kevin Durant would only be a good second option next to Lebron.

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    Ah the "sopa opera" and "emo" cards being used to divert me calling you out. Egotistical people like yourself use those lines of defense when they know deep down it's the truth.



    you only quoted part of my post and ignored the rest of it.
    "Cavs + Jamison = Champs" Great reverse jinx BG Thank you.

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    Jamison is a good jumpshooter for his position. And a very good scorer.
    Yeah, he's decent, good for position.

    Except that season in Dallas I mentioned, Jamison never shot above 47%. Think about it.

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    milkshake&DOK, I think Pierce would rape Jamison. It'd be even worse than Garnett or Rondo over Williams. Allowing Pierce to get into that kind of rhythm would be very dangerous to Cleveland. Plus, I think LBJ wastes lots of energy on Rondo, defending the point of attack is demanding physically and mentally. But essentially what you gain with "LBJ on Rondo" > "Moon on Rondo" is much smaller than what you lose by putting someone else than LeBron on Pierce, IMO.

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    By the way Jamison's 2point jumpshot FG% is nearly the same as Durant's. By your logic Kevin Durant would only be a good second option next to Lebron.
    Yeah, because it's obvious that Durant's efficiency would stay the same if he was playing next to LeBron, not creating his shots, playign the 4 and with a much reduced usage rate.

    Honestly, try thinking before you post.

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    Yeah, he's decent, good for position.

    Except that season in Dallas I mentioned, Jamison never shot above 47%. Think about it.

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    milkshake&DOK, I think Pierce would rape Jamison. It'd be even worse than Garnett or Rondo over Williams. Allowing Pierce to get into that kind of rhythm would be very dangerous to Cleveland. Plus, I think LBJ wastes lots of energy on Rondo, defending the point of attack is demanding physically and mentally. But essentially what you gain with "LBJ on Rondo" > "Moon on Rondo" is much smaller than what you lose by putting someone else than LeBron on Pierce, IMO.
    I could see that. That was my only issue with that lineup but Pierce is struggling as it is right now...not sure if seeing Jamison will get him going.

    LeBron is in tip top shape. Energy is NOT a concern for him IMO.

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    Yeah, he's decent, good for position.

    Except that season in Dallas I mentioned, Jamison never shot above 47%. Think about it.

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    milkshake&DOK, I think Pierce would rape Jamison. It'd be even worse than Garnett or Rondo over Williams. Allowing Pierce to get into that kind of rhythm would be very dangerous to Cleveland. Plus, I think LBJ wastes lots of energy on Rondo, defending the point of attack is demanding physically and mentally. But essentially what you gain with "LBJ on Rondo" > "Moon on Rondo" is much smaller than what you lose by putting someone else than LeBron on Pierce, IMO.
    Personally I'd stick West on Rondo but I think actually having two active big men down low would hurt Rondo a lot. We all know what Jamison's interior defense is like and how terrible Shaq is at rotating, different story with Hickson and Varejao.

    And yeah Idk have the Pierce vs. Jamison part would work out, it's anyone's guess. I do think however having a bigger body guard Allen would help because he'll be able to fight through screens better. The problem for Cleveland is, there's no obvious solution. The overall point we agree on though is that Mo Williams sucks and Hickson + Varejao is their best front court.

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    The Cavs have been ass-raped twice on their home floor. That doesn't happen to championship teams. Cavs are in trouble and Stern isn't going to save them.

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    I could see that. That was my only issue with that lineup but Pierce is struggling as it is right now...not sure if seeing Jamison will get him going.

    LeBron is in tip top shape. Energy is NOT a concern for him IMO.
    Pierce was averaging 11 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 turnovers per game in the first 4 games being guarded full time by LeBron James.

    Yesterday, he went to 21 points, 11 rebounds, 7 assists and 1 turnover.

    As I've said the LeBron on Rondo experience would be short-lived, they need him on Pierce. Too risky if Pierce caughts fire. And against Jamison, he would, the Cs would isolate him pretty much every play.

    Personally I'd stick West on Rondo but I think actually having two active big men down low would hurt Rondo a lot. We all know what Jamison's interior defense is like and how terrible Shaq is at rotating, different story with Hickson and Varejao.

    And yeah Idk have the Pierce vs. Jamison part would work out, it's anyone's guess. I do think however having a bigger body guard Allen would help because he'll be able to fight through screens better. The problem for Cleveland is, there's no obvious solution. The overall point we agree on though is that Mo Williams sucks and Hickson + Varejao is their best front court.
    West would do a much better job than Mo because at least he has the aggressiveness and the awareness to play the passing lanes and double people when sagging off of Rondo, puts more pressure on first pass to the wing and contests shots harder, but the kind of guy who gives Rondo trouble is a long defender who can affect his scoring and decision-making in the lane. Think Jarred Jeffries, few people in the league defend Rondo as well as Jeffries.

    The kind of guy you want to defend Ray Allen is one with discipline. Someone who just stays with him. You don't need a defensive specialist, any guy with a brain and quick fighting through screens can do it. JJ Re , for example. Off-the-ball defense is about mental discipline and technique. Can LeBron do that? I guess, even though he's pretty pedestrian fighting screens (precisely because he has help defense responsibilities). But that would also mean you'd be giving away a big part of his help defense. West is their best off-the-ball defender, why not him on Ray Ray?

    LeBron is probably the best 1x1 wing defender in the league. Versus a guy like Pierce, he's better than Sefolosha, Battier or Artest. Why mess up with that? They should have stayed with LeBron on Pierce and then deal with one of Rondo + Garnett using a different solution.

    The overall point we agree on though is that Mo Williams sucks and Hickson + Varejao is their best front court.
    Absolutely, at least in this series.
    Last edited by mogrovejo; 05-12-2010 at 09:17 AM.

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    Check these numbers, DOK:

    LeBron allows 0.606 points per possession in isolations, which rates as excellent and makes him better than 97% of the league (with the remaining 3% being mostly scrubs with short samples and easy assignments).


    However, he's below average in spot-up defense - 1.066 points per play allowed, better than only 27% of the league) and coming off screens, where he alllows 1.034 points per play, witch puts him in the 20% percentile.


    Pierce is the Celtics best player on isolations, creating 36% of his shots from clearouts and as the ball-handler in the pick'n'roll. Ray Allen is the best shooting of screens and spotting up, creating 32% of his shots off screens and 19% from spot ups.

    Sometimes you just need to keep it simple.

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    I just had a vision.

    2011... Cowboys stadium... Kidd grabs the rebound and runs the fast break with Lebron, Dirk trailing behind for the 3-PT option.

    GOnna be a big ing party in Dallas next year boys. So much coke and women it'll make your head spin... and a few of these
    Speaking of visions, don't you guys already have one of these?

    2006 as I recall......

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    This would be completely blasphemous for the Celtics, but what they should do is hand out LeBron James New York Knicks jerseys to every fan in attendance.


    Funny Jam.

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    The Cavs have been ass-raped twice on their home floor. That doesn't happen to championship teams. Cavs are in trouble and Stern isn't going to save them.
    This. Cavs going into fish mode. Cue the photoshops.

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    I kind of hope Cleveland wins the next 2 games. Seeing Laker fans happy is the one thing I don't want to happen.
    happy? I wanted Cavs told you (everyone) though very deep, was overrated.
    Lebron is AMAZING Mo etc not even close ...
    Idiot coach too ...

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    I just think it's funny how every year starts with people talking about how Lebron finally has the weapons around him, and ends with people talking about how Cleveland would be good if Lebron had any help. Coincidence?

    Mo Williams wasn't the answer? Shaq wasn't the answer? Jamison wasn't the answer?

    Maybe they should start thinking more about the question.

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    I just think it's funny how every year starts with people talking about how Lebron finally has the weapons around him, and ends with people talking about how Cleveland would be good if Lebron had any help. Coincidence?

    Mo Williams wasn't the answer? Shaq wasn't the answer? Jamison wasn't the answer?

    Maybe they should start thinking more about the question.
    it's called bad coaching, both tactically and psychologically.

    the cavs are not trained for playoff ball, look at all these huge home losses, this just not happens against a mentally well prepared team. They play with too much emotion and this is disrupting ballance. Add to that that jamison is not your playoffs pf and that shaq is old as and there are at least 5 CLEARLY better Cs just in the east and you have a realistic picture.

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    "Lakers will not repeat. Cavaliers are going to win their 1st NBA le this year and Kobe fanbois will all commit mass suicide once Lebron officially and rightfully takes what's his for many years to come"

    "Lakers are not even going to advance in the Finals"


    Fixed:

    "Lakers will repeat. Cavaliers are not going to win their 1st NBA le this year and Lebron fanbois will all commit mass suicide once Kobe officially and rightfully takes what's his for many years to come"

    "Cavaliers are not even going to advance in the Finals"

    P.S. The last sentence should be "...to the...", not "...in the...".

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    Screw the Celtics - They will be going fishing pretty soon anyway, and all of this will be irrelevant. They are not even that good this year (except for Rondo) - they beat a lousy Miami team in the first round - Miami wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they were in the Western Conference, and the Celtics will be steam-rolled by Orlando in the ECF if they make it to the next round.

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