ESPN Rumors: Parker to the Knicks

[MateoNeygro]

You wouldn't rather have (in addition to Deron Williams) Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy? I'd take all of those guys over Parker easily, and that's just at the PG position. But of course, none of those options are realistic as those teams would be crazy to give those players away for Parker.

B-Roy plays the 2. I'm sure he could do spot minutes at the one but he's a 2.

[DesignatedT]

i want nothing that the knicks have

[J_Paco]

This New York Daily New article is bull , since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.

[ALVAREZ6]

B-Roy plays the 2. I'm sure he could do spot minutes at the one but he's a 2.

Sure, but he'd work with Manu because both can pass, he's the one player I mentioned that isn't necessarily a PG but would still take over Parker because he's simply better.

[ALVAREZ6]

This New York Daily New article is bull , since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.

How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.

[rayray2k8]

Get rid of the guy that very few teams can guard? Yeah.. That makes sense.
Parker aint going nowhere. Hill is a two guard, not a PG. He can cover for Parker at the 1, but so can Ginobili.

[lefty]

This New York Daily New article is bull , since Parker never lost his job and George Hill is no where near a PG. Unless the Spurs plan on starting Ginobili beside Hill, which would again burn-out Manu, there isn't any way that Hill is ready to have the lionshare of ball-handling duties. People on Tony's ability to run the team, but George would do a much worse job if thrust into the spot permanently.

Hill started 8 playoff games and averaged less than 1 assist per game.

This.

[Pauleta14]

You wouldn't rather have (in addition to Deron Williams) Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Derrick Rose, or Brandon Roy? I'd take all of those guys over Parker easily, and that's just at the PG position. But of course, none of those options are realistic as those teams would be crazy to give those players away for Parker.

FAIL....

He isn't there yet, he may never be as good as Parker. But the Hill-Ginobili back court was very effective the last quarter of the season, it seemed to work really well. I only endorse trading Parker if it returns a player that can have a big effect, NOW. Not in the future. If trading Parker could bring a solid big man to put alongside Duncan, I'm all for it. Tim hasn't had a solid PF/C next to him since Robinson, and playing alongside each other (duncan + another solid big man) would help both of their individual games as the defense can afford to double team less, and would provide the Spurs with much more consistent rebounding. The fact is we need another true big man, and there's no point in signing another average one. But this is really the only way I'd want the Spurs to trade Parker, I don't support just giving away talent for little in return.

Hill can be (very) productive WHEN he is surround by allstars!!!
He doesn't have the talent to be the focus of the opposite teams, he has no weapons to create his own shot and doesn't have a "killer" instinct...
He can become a great player in the spurs system but not a primary weapon on the ong term...

I'm wondering if your opinion of Hill is not based on the fact that you are willing to take any solutions that woud get rid of Parker...

[Darthkiller]

what's with the lee for parker crap.

lee is 2 years younger, averaging 20 10 , is a big man. not injury prone.

parker is 2 years older, bad stats, injury prone, a shoot first pg.

ny isnt using the cap space from lee to get parker..

[Budkin]

TP is not going anywhere.

[sananspursfan21]

equivalent: Lebron could go to San Antonio

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If we could parlay Parker into Gay and one of Galinari or Lee, we'd be dumb not to do it.

[J_Paco]

How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.

I guess you didn't watch game 4 against Phoenix? Manu has always needed his minutes to be monitored. Playing Manu beside Hill exclusively would burden him with more minutes and more responsibilities.

And, half the guy your pining for don't play the defense necessary to help the team improve on that end of the floor.

If we could parlay Parker into Gay and one of Galinari or Lee, we'd be dumb not to do it.

So, you want to fix one hole by creating another? David Lee with Rudy Gay isn't very realistic, but pairing Gay with Galinari would be. That still doesn't change the fact that we would have a gaping hole at PG.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So, you want to fix one hole by creating another? David Lee with Rudy Gay isn't very realistic, but pairing Gay with Galinari would be. That still doesn't change the fact that we would have a gaping hole at PG.

The role of the point guard in the Spurs offense is to score, not be a distributor. I'm not saying Tony's not a great player, but I don't know that we would have a gaping hole there with his departure.

This is all on the condition Hill steps in at starter at point.

[safetypickle]

just fodder for discussion, but eric bledsoe should be available at #20 in the draft.

[tuncaboylu]

what's with the lee for parker crap.

lee is 2 years younger, averaging 20 10 , is a big man. not injury prone.

parker is 2 years older, bad stats, injury prone, a shoot first pg.

ny isnt using the cap space from lee to get parker..

2 years older player doesn't mean too much in long term plans, if the older player is 28 years old. Moreover averaging 20 10 in one of the worst teams in the league doesn't prove a player is a superstar. Parker is not injury prone guy, he played nearly all of the gamestill this season and his new injury is not anything recurrable.

I agree about Lee for Parker is crap but from the other side. I would never accept to get him for Parker.

[beachwood]

The only player I'd want for Parker is Deron Williams.

Me too. Or Bosh or CP3. But all seem out of the realm of possibility.

[J_Paco]

The role of the point guard in the Spurs offense is to score, not be a distributor. I'm not saying Tony's not a great player, but I don't know that we would have a gaping hole there with his departure.

This is all on the condition Hill steps in at starter at point.

Yeah, but the point guard still needs to be able to run the offense effectively. I really don't think that Hill is ready or suited to run an NBA offense full-time. Or would you be okay with Pop eliminating half of his playbook like he did this past season?

Plus, we can't forget about all the "hockey" assists and opportunities for offense that Tony creates by penetrating and kicking-out. Unless we obtain guys that can both spot-up and slash to the rim, but we'll still that sort of offense especially with Timmy seeing less double-teams. After his poor performance against the Suns, I really don't see Hill making those sort of plays.

Oh, and trust me Tony will be missed when Hill is getting torched by B. Diddy, Aaron Brooks, Russell Westbroook, Roddy B., Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups and Steve Nash. Did I miss anyone that torched him this season?

[Bruno]

Parker never passes the ball to Manu. Trade his ass.

[J_Paco]

Parker never passes the ball to Manu. Trade his ass.

Yeah, CoM would love to see Tony gone.

[ducks]

Anyone who pays Tony a max deal should be fired...

5 players are worth the max

boozer,tp,manu,joe johnson are alot that do not dewserve the max

[Muser]

Rudy Gay? GTFO.

[in2deep]

Gallo

sky is the limit for that guy r u kiddin! no way NY lets him go but I'd trade him for Parker in a millisecond

[NFGIII]

He didn't lose his starting job, that's just ridiculous.

Agreed. And Hill didn't become the starting PG - Manu did.

How does starting Ginobili burn Manu out? He was of the few that didn't burn out in the playoffs, his perimeter jumper wasn't falling after the nose fracture but he kept playing hard. It's not who starts that matters, it's the minutes.

Because he needs to play no more than 30 mpg due to his style of play and age. Frankly I thought most posters here at ST would know this by now. Manu isn't going to play 35+ mpg that TP can. If he did the chance of injury would be that much more likely to happen. His minutes have been monitored for at tleast 3 year or so. As he gets older then they taper off even more.

And it isn't the minutes but who finishes that matters. Manu coming off the bench, playing around 30 mpg max if that and finishing the game is the role the Spurs have had him playing for years.

[MrChug]

Gallinari is the only knick i'm interested in.

Obviously Lee is the only Knick worth a squirt of piss (in fact he's worth a lil' more than that) but Gallinari is a stud.