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    Cleveland has no committed salary to Lebron. Hes an unrestricted free agent. In your scenario, you just went from 13 million in committed salary for the upcoming season to 20.
    He has a player option for $17 million for 2010/11. As it stand right now, if he opts in for the final year, their commitment next year is $65 million. If he signs an extension with the Cavs, his 2010/11 cap figure is likely to start around $20 million. That would bring their 2010/11 cap figure to $68 million. LeBron/Jamison to Dallas for Damp/Butler/Stevenson/Barea/Roddy/Najera would reduce their 2010 commitment from $68 million to $56 million. And their 2011 commitments would total $38 million.

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    Hi.

    DoK is almost as big a got as you are.
    I heard the other day you were rubbing your on the spokes of your wheelchair, and got gonorrhea. What a got.

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    Do I need to come in here and critique DSF's grammar again?

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    He has a player option for $17 million for 2010/11. As it stand right now, if he opts in for the final year, their commitment next year is $65 million. If he signs an extension with the Cavs, his 2010/11 cap figure is likely to start around $20 million. That would bring their 2010/11 cap figure to $68 million. LeBron/Jamison to Dallas for Damp/Butler/Stevenson/Barea/Roddy/Najera would reduce their 2010 commitment from $68 million to $56 million. And their 2011 commitments would total $38 million.

    What scenario nets them less committed salary next year:

    Letting Lebron leave completely, or
    doing the trade you're proposing

    The Dallas trade gets them a B-list young combo guard prospect, it doesn't do for their cap situation

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    Because opening up the possibility of him being able to go to a playoff team makes it more likely for him to leave. It's less likely he leaves if they say, "If you wanna leave sign with a ty NY team and risk what happens there."
    Or he can sign with Chicago and team up with Rose/Noah. That instantly is the best team in the East. Or he can go to NY, name his coach, name his GM, and get another max player alongside him in the media capital of the country.

    The Cavs have NO leverage. They will kiss his ass in the hopes that he wants to stay, and if he doesn't, they're better off trading him to Dallas than letting him leave for Chicago or New York with much worse implications for their immediate future.

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    He has a player option for $17 million for 2010/11. As it stand right now, if he opts in for the final year, their commitment next year is $65 million. If he signs an extension with the Cavs, his 2010/11 cap figure is likely to start around $20 million. That would bring their 2010/11 cap figure to $68 million. LeBron/Jamison to Dallas for Damp/Butler/Stevenson/Barea/Roddy/Najera would reduce their 2010 commitment from $68 million to $56 million. And their 2011 commitments would total $38 million.
    good job pwning sun fan!

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    As long as I don't go out in the impending deal we are set with these motha as for years to come. I think a Lebron/Dirk combo will be able to overcome Carlisles inep ude, as long as Wades move doesn't create another superpower.

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    If LeBron walks, they get nothing.
    I might rather have nothing that Caron Butler on the books, even for one year. The Suns decided they would rather have nothing than both Kurt Thomas AND Shaquille Oneal.



    It's not something to think about. It's just a fact.
    Its your opinion. Butler may be a decent trade chip for the next year. Maybe not. Maybe the Cavs would rather have the ability to say "Lebron left us" as opposed to "We traded Lebron".

    It doesn't matter where LeBron goes, those draft picks are going to be late 1st rounders. I don't see any scenario where LeBron is traded to a team whose 1st rounders will be significantly better than Dallas. What's really the difference between a 23rd pick or a 28th pick?
    True. But there may be some teams out there with other teams picks (like how the Suns had the Atlanta pick for years). The Cavs might prefer young pieces over picks. Maybe it becomes a three team deal.

    The young players is the one key. Beaubois is really the only chip Dallas has. If the Bulls wanted to offer Rose and/or Noah then Chicago is the frontrunner. But does LeBron want to go to a Bulls team sans Rose/Noah?
    I was thinking the same thing. Unlikely Lebron would allow himself to be traded for those guys. Of course, three team deals change everything.

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    What scenario nets them less committed salary next year:

    Letting Lebron leave completely, or
    doing the trade you're proposing

    The Dallas trade gets them a B-list young combo guard prospect, it doesn't do for their cap situation
    at this point you're just pwning yourself.

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    Yeah, Dirk's teammates are why he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn against Golden State, lol excuse making homer
    Convenient how you ignore every other series but bring up what was clearly an aberration.

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    What scenario nets them less committed salary next year:

    Letting Lebron leave completely, or
    doing the trade you're proposing

    The Dallas trade gets them a B-list young combo guard prospect, it doesn't do for their cap situation
    Doing the Dallas trade puts their 2010 commitment at $56 million. Signing LeBron to an extension themselves puts their 2010 commitment at $68 million. Letting him walk and getting nothing in return puts their 2010 commitment at $48 million. But they still have Jamison's contact on the books for two more years, and they are close to the tax line with a 2010/11 team going nowhere. Doing the Dallas trade sets them up nicely for the summer of 2011 with a cap figure of $38 million, Roddy, a lottery pick of their own, Dallas' first-round pick, and $14 million in cap space.

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    As long as I don't go out in the impending deal we are set with these motha as for years to come. I think a Lebron/Dirk combo will be able to overcome Carlisles inep ude, as long as Wades move doesn't create another superpower.
    Roddy you will be pwning n00bs all day long in Cleveland.

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    Convenient how you ignore every other series but bring up what was clearly an aberration.
    pure pwnage

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    at this point you're just pwning yourself.
    thanks for answering the question. Every fanbase is calling Mavfan delusional for thinking Lebron is a possibility yet they're stuck in their own little world.

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    Hey Monos.

    Actually, Mavs fan is starting to sound a lot like Laker fan when they were convinced they were gonna get KG.

    "Man About Town" cant
    Fail.

    wrap his head around the fact that trading an unrestricted free agent for expiring contracts doesnt
    Fail.

    get you "cap space".

    Hey its
    Fail.

    Fail.

    possible Lebron could end up in Dallas. I mean after the Gasol trade, any deal under the CBA has to be thought as "feasible", no matter how stupid it might be for a particular team. It just seems like a pretty unlikely scenario.
    lol 4 fails

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    DoK, don't be mad the Mavs are about to be swimming in

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    Doing the Dallas trade puts their 2010 commitment at $56 million. Letting him walk and getting nothing in return puts their 2010 commitment at $48 million.
    THANK YOU!!!! Doing the Dallas trade does nothing for their cap relief, thanks for playing.

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    thanks for answering the question. Every fanbase is calling Mavfan delusional for thinking Lebron is a possibility yet they're stuck in their own little world.
    :

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    Site of the 2011 Finals




    Great mother ing spectacle

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    thanks for answering the question. Every fanbase is calling Mavfan delusional for thinking Lebron is a possibility yet they're stuck in their own little world.





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    Ghazi too bad you live in Ohio, I'm not sure why you want Lebron to leave.

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    He has a player option for $17 million for 2010/11. As it stand right now, if he opts in for the final year, their commitment next year is $65 million. If he signs an extension with the Cavs, his 2010/11 cap figure is likely to start around $20 million. That would bring their 2010/11 cap figure to $68 million. LeBron/Jamison to Dallas for Damp/Butler/Stevenson/Barea/Roddy/Najera would reduce their 2010 commitment from $68 million to $56 million. And their 2011 commitments would total $38 million.
    And if he opts out, their commitment next year is 48.

    48 < 56.

    Maybe throwing in Jasmison to give them cap relief for 2011 might make it a better scenario. That would mean they believe that they would rather have NOTHING than Jamison. If they believe that about Jamison, Im sure they would believe it about Butler and the rest of the Dallas scrubs.

    So is this Findog? Why doenst he post under Findog?

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    THANK YOU!!!! Doing the Dallas trade does nothing for their cap relief, thanks for playing.
    That'll go over great with season ticket owners.

    "Hey guys we've got some bad news and some good news. Bad news is LeBron went to New York and we got jack in return. He'll now be kicking our asses four times a year. But the good news is, instead of trading with Dallas for a quality player, draft picks, and a hot young prospect, we instead let him walk so we'll be saving 8 million dollars! More money for our pockets, es!"

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    We'll throw in this guy too


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    I already got my bags packed for CLE tbh. This is a 100% certainty.

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