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  1. #51
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    you bas !


    dude, you know as well as i do that our guards are scorers and not shooters.

    manu's broken nose had to affect his shooting.

    tony is not a 3pt specialist.

    hill, actually, hill from the corner was sweet...

    bottomline, we needed those guys to drive to the cup and kick out to the 'shooters'....who were on the bench cuz they suck.
    Yes, we need a big no doubt there..... but

    We also need a reliable defensive presence on the perimeter who also is a solid 3 point threat (read: A Shane Battier type). How much are we missing Bruce now? Wasn't just his D you see?

    Hill is the only possible exception in terms of shooters, but he disappeared in the Phoenix series, and on the road in general.

    An offensive facilitator can help to alleviate those sorts of things (read: A DWill or CP3 type). My main issue with Parker is that unless he's scoring, he not giving you much else. Can't say that about Manu.

    Also, the honest truth is that Parker is the only real trade asset we've got.

    Oh, and yeah, I'm a bas . But I'm a bas with a neat avatar and a pretty cool sig.

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    Man, people have a short memory. Tony Parker is a top 5 point guard. Everyone wants to get rid of him.........for what? The guy when healthy can slash, score and dish. Stop all this BS about dumping him.
    So you think the Big 3 + RJ as is can still win a le?

    I thought it was pretty clear this year that this team as is, is not a contender

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    Parker is not a top 5 PG.

    1) Nash
    2) D-Williams
    3) CP3
    4) Billups
    5) Rondo

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    Parker is not a top 5 PG.

    1) Nash
    2) D-Williams
    3) CP3
    4) Billups
    5) Rondo
    He is. And dont look solely at this injury plagued year, that's not how tp is.

    And oh yeah, cp3 is overrated.

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    Yeah he was the 2007 finals MVP, but guess what that was 3 years ago and Spurs may need a big change this off season since the last 3 years the Spurs have not been too successful in playoffs.

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    Parker is not a top 5 PG.

    1) Nash
    2) D-Williams
    3) CP3
    4) Billups
    5) Rondo
    Take out Billups and put Parker at #4.

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    the league isn't really full of true top tier point guards any more

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    1) Gino running the point was the best period of the Spurs this season but I agree he needs his minutes monitored. However he seemed healthy enough until that nose injury.

    2) Yea that is true, before that hand injury TP looked like a 2009 Parker.

    3) No one is saying Hill is a PG but he's been improving in just about every area of the game and hopefully will continue to do so. If Parker is traded it will be for a damn good deal.

    This will be a NBA offseason for the ages. Teams will be losing their star players and needing to revamp their rosters - there will likely be great opportunities. As a Spurs fan they should definitely pursue a trade deal if Tony Parker places France ahead of a possible especially since Manu is taking this summer off and Parker's been injured all year and still is.
    So you agree that to trade parker spurs will want to land an elite PG and it is very unlikely to happen?

    Now regarding the France story, first of all I'm all for TP resting this summer because France has no chance at all and the most important is the qualification for the olympics. Nevertheless I really thing the fact he played this summer was not such a huge factor for his injured season, even with the euro he took a long break and rested a lot.
    I just think for TP this year was this kind of year when everything goes wrong, he admitted he was mentally tired. Once again I'm not advocating TP playing for France it is just what I feel.

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    No such thing as a playoffs MVP.
    Another argument altogether, I know, but there should be. As good as Parker's finals performance was, let's be honest, he benefited, at least in the first half of the series, from being guarded by a shooting guard who was playing with a sprained ankle which obviously limited his lateral mobility. Everyone knows Duncan was the best player, not just on the Spurs, but in the league during the '07 playoffs, yet he was essentially penalized because of Parker benefiting from a specific matchup in a specific series. Granted it was in the most important series, but still.

    I agree with lebomb though, how quickly people have forgotten about Parker. I expect a huge, All-NBA caliber season out of him next season. He'll probably pick up where he left off at the end of the 08-09 season. The points per game probably won't be as high, but that's only because it won't need to be with more firepower on the team.

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    daniella gibson says hi btw....

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    Parker in fact is not a top 5 point guard, he's hardly a PG, more of a tiny shooting guard, but here are 5 better PGs:
    1. Chris Paul
    2. Deron Williams
    3. Steve Nash
    4. Rajon Rondo
    5. Derrick Rose (granted not really a true PG either, but anyone would take him over Parker any day unless they're re ed)

    + Billups is a solid PG who I'd personally rather have
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    I like Parker but its scenarios like these that arent good. You cant judge a player from 3 years ago to the player he is today. Period.

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    Parker in fact is not a top 5 point guard, he's hardly a PG, more of a tiny shooting guard, but here are 5 better PGs:
    1. Chris Paul
    2. Deron Williams
    3. Steve Nash
    4. Rajon Rondo
    5. Derrick Rose (granted not really a true PG either, but anyone would take him over Parker any day unless they're re ed)

    + Billups is a solid PG who I'd personally rather have
    what he said.

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    tony is the 4th to 7th best pg in the league. That's pretty good. If we are trading him we better get the 4th or 7th best big man in the NBA....

    not rudy gay or david lee.

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    tony is the 4th to 7th best pg in the league. That's pretty good. If we are trading him we better get the 4th or 7th best big man in the NBA....

    not rudy gay or david lee.
    where do you rank Rudy Gay amongst Small Forward? just curious.

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    tony is the 4th to 7th best pg in the league. That's pretty good. If we are trading him we better get the 4th or 7th best big man in the NBA....

    not rudy gay or david lee.
    I agree no way they should trade parker for lee or gay.

    Like I've said, there are few players the Spurs could realistically trade for Parker that I would support. But I think they should be open to shipping Parker and Jefferson to the same team if they can get a good deal in return, but only if it were right. Theoretically, I would expect a few teams to be interested in something like that if they have a high paced mentality as both can run and are used optimally when in transition and high volume possessions. I think the rest of the league is aware now that Jefferson is useless unless hes running the floor with a legendary PG.

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    where do you rank Rudy Gay amongst Small Forward? just curious.
    not high enough to think about it.

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