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    http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/h...perphone-armo/

    Just a rundown of the specs for those that don't want to read the article.

    4G data transfer speeds
    1 Ghz Snapdragon processor running Android
    512 MB of RAM
    1 GB Built-in storage, expandable
    8 megapixel camera/1.3 MP front facing camera for video-calls
    720p recording
    480x800 display on a 4.3 inch display
    HDMI out
    Wifi Hotspot capable -- Up to 5 PCs can attach to this cell phone's signal to surf on.

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    Yeah, I just bought a hero, and saw this the other day. Damn, it looks smooth. I am still happy with my purchase, but HTC thought of everything with this phone. We could actually use it in San Antonio too since we are one of the 27 cities with 4g. I think that the phone should run all conversation through 4g, rather than cellular. I know that there is at least one phone company moving that way (one of the minor players, can't remember their name though).

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    I've had a couple of HTC phones in the past years.
    Touch HD
    Touch HD2
    Magic

    The first two have magnificent hardware, big displays, gorgeous design but the biggest mistake is windows mobile. Don't get me wrong... WM is nice to use and you can get a lot of apps and modifications for free but the speed is just awful. Until Windows Mobile 7 comes out it's a no-go. Also there are many hardware errors due to overheating on the two devices - First try to create a superphone and they failed.

    The Magic is a great Android based phone but lacks the hardware and display size to be considered anything near a superphone.

    Right now the phone to get is the HTC Legend - Case made of one piece - Android - smooth - great hardware and design. Easy to customize. If you don't like the Sene UI just turn it off.

    The Evo seems to me as the successor to the Legend. Time will tell which one is worth getting. And time will tell if HTC has learned from the mistakes they made in the past.

    Still, if you are one who does not like to get an iphone, the newest htc phones legend and evo are the best alternative. , I'd even say they are better then the Iphone due to the fact that you can customize nearly everything to your liking. The only thing Apple will always be better in is the usability of the UI.

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    they didnt even announce the price. since this is the first 4g phone expect this to be ridiculous.

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    I have the Hero and I really like it but this one will probably better cant wait to get it.

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    they didnt even announce the price. since this is the first 4g phone expect this to be ridiculous.
    Depends. HTC phones have historically been priced very compe ively. If it's under, say, $300 I'm definitely getting it.

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    Depends. HTC phones have historically been priced very compe ively. If it's under, say, $300 I'm definitely getting it.
    dont count on it. think iphone first release pricing

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    dont count on it. think iphone first release pricing
    Why would it be that much more expensive? This phone doesn't have specs that are extremely overpowered, compared to other phones that are selling quite cheaply right now.

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    Yes it is, almost every spec is doubled on this phone. The only thing that is "common" on this phone is the Snapdragon, and that has only been used in about 4 other phones. Yeah, I bet this phone is 500+.

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    I am not redwood DJ Mbenga's Avatar
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    this even destroys the nexus one and it has 4G. destroys download speeds and its a walking hot spot for 8 devices.

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    this even destroys the nexus one and it has 4G. destroys download speeds and its a walking hot spot for 8 devices.

    thats if your area has 4g, right now san antonio does but alot of major cities dont, like LA.

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    This may be true, but Clearwire is expanding into a lot more cities this year, and will be covering almost half of the population. Until that happens, you would be able to use this phone with 3g.

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    The HTC EVO 4G will go on sale June 4th for $199 with a new contract according to Engadget.com

    Awesome price for the handset, but the monthly contract has a (seemingly mandatory) 4G 'Premium data' add-on for $10 monthly. And an optional $29.99 monthly for the 8-device wi-fi hotspot feature.

    Still getting on this , though. ASAP!

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    I wonder if I can talk Sprint into giving me one for the $199 price even though my contract isn't up yet.

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    I wonder if I can talk Sprint into giving me one for the $199 price even though my contract isn't up yet.
    They might agree you if you renew.

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    Looks sexy, no doubt. Still, I'm not ready to buy a smartphone. Still too much of an infant technology for me. And still way to expensive a data plan.

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    The few limited 4G spots are not TRUE 4G, we won't see the true 4g capabilities for at least another year. A LOT of upgrades are in order to make this happen soon but the technology isn't quite there yet to match all the hype.

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    Looks sexy, no doubt. Still, I'm not ready to buy a smartphone. Still too much of an infant technology for me. And still way to expensive a data plan.
    The technology is very similar to what's in computers. They both use processors, RAM, storage is even nearly identical. I'm not sure you can say it's in it's infancy when it's already so robust. The Evo 4G will run as smoothly or better than many Netbooks.

    The few limited 4G spots are not TRUE 4G, we won't see the true 4g capabilities for at least another year. A LOT of upgrades are in order to make this happen soon but the technology isn't quite there yet to match all the hype.
    Define "true 4G" for me? Because this is a huge step up from 3G, so in my book, that's 4G. Look at the speed tests Engadget conducted:

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/s...sucking-paces/

    Does that look even remotely similar to 3G to you? Four MEG/sec down, 1 mb/sec up speeds? So yeah, you can bandy about the "not true 4G" all you want. It's still insanely fast, faster than anything else you can achieve in a phone in the United States by a wide margin.

    Some features of the Evo:


    * Simultaneous voice and data capability in 4G and Wi-Fi coverage areas, enabling Web surfing and more while the conversation continues.
    * Offering a new way to search with pictures instead of words, Google Goggles(TM) works with everything from books, DVDs and barcodes to landmarks, logos, artwork and wine labels.
    * Superfast 1GHz Qualcomm(R) Snapdragon(TM) processor, ensuring a smooth and quick movement within phone menus.
    * Two cameras - an 8.0 megapixel auto-focus camera with HD-capable video camcorder and a forward-facing 1.3 megapixel camera.
    * Built-in mobile hotspot functionality allowing up to eight Wi-Fi enabled devices to share the 3G or 4G experience on the go with a laptop, camera, music player, game unit, video player, or any other Wi-Fi enabled device.
    * Integrated HD video capture with the ability to capture and share live video via the Qik Web site, Facebook, YouTube or Twitter(TM).
    * Ability to easily watch video with the device on an HDTV via an HDMI cable (sold separately).
    * Custom Web browser optimized for the 4.3 inch display and Sprint 4G speeds to deliver a full, no-compromise Internet experience.
    * A handy kickstand built into the back, making it easy to watch videos on-the-go.
    * Adobe Flash technology ensures that rich Internet content, such as embedded video and animation, are displayed the way they are meant to be seen.
    * Pinch-to-zoom and automatic text reflowing provide easy Web page views.


    Sprint has also stated that you will be able to have real-time video chat via the 3G or 4G connection.

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    Best Buy is now taking pre-orders for the HTC Evo 4G.

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    aren't HTC and Apple suing each other like crazy? intellectual property & patent infringment issues and whatnot...

    supposedly all this legal crap (thanks gov't) will be passed on to consumers.

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    Ok, I am not getting it because I just got a phone in March, BUT I really think this phone is awesome, and am just curious if anyone has heard what kind of battery life it has. With the scorching specifications and functions that this thing has, the battery has to last 20 mins, right?

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    Ok, I am not getting it because I just got a phone in March, BUT I really think this phone is awesome, and am just curious if anyone has heard what kind of battery life it has. With the scorching specifications and functions that this thing has, the battery has to last 20 mins, right?
    It's purported to have better battery life than the first iPhone. My guess is that with intensive use, it will last just over a day.

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    The technology is very similar to what's in computers. They both use processors, RAM, storage is even nearly identical. I'm not sure you can say it's in it's infancy when it's already so robust. The Evo 4G will run as smoothly or better than many Netbooks.



    Define "true 4G" for me? Because this is a huge step up from 3G, so in my book, that's 4G. Look at the speed tests Engadget conducted:

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/s...sucking-paces/

    Does that look even remotely similar to 3G to you? Four MEG/sec down, 1 mb/sec up speeds? So yeah, you can bandy about the "not true 4G" all you want. It's still insanely fast, faster than anything else you can achieve in a phone in the United States by a wide margin.

    Some features of the Evo:


    * Simultaneous voice and data capability in 4G and Wi-Fi coverage areas, enabling Web surfing and more while the conversation continues.
    * Offering a new way to search with pictures instead of words, Google Goggles(TM) works with everything from books, DVDs and barcodes to landmarks, logos, artwork and wine labels.
    * Superfast 1GHz Qualcomm(R) Snapdragon(TM) processor, ensuring a smooth and quick movement within phone menus.
    * Two cameras - an 8.0 megapixel auto-focus camera with HD-capable video camcorder and a forward-facing 1.3 megapixel camera.
    * Built-in mobile hotspot functionality allowing up to eight Wi-Fi enabled devices to share the 3G or 4G experience on the go with a laptop, camera, music player, game unit, video player, or any other Wi-Fi enabled device.
    * Integrated HD video capture with the ability to capture and share live video via the Qik Web site, Facebook, YouTube or Twitter(TM).
    * Ability to easily watch video with the device on an HDTV via an HDMI cable (sold separately).
    * Custom Web browser optimized for the 4.3 inch display and Sprint 4G speeds to deliver a full, no-compromise Internet experience.
    * A handy kickstand built into the back, making it easy to watch videos on-the-go.
    * Adobe Flash technology ensures that rich Internet content, such as embedded video and animation, are displayed the way they are meant to be seen.
    * Pinch-to-zoom and automatic text reflowing provide easy Web page views.


    Sprint has also stated that you will be able to have real-time video chat via the 3G or 4G connection.

    Just to encourage some friendly enlightenment on the Sprint 4G system, I felt I should humbly chime in about this subject. Although I like Sprint as a company and a provider of services, this recent marketing push for 4G is somewhat of a falsehood. To be point blank, 4G is not simply a proliferation of 3G technology. For more clarity: 4G will encompass fast download rates, but fast download rates are not solely 4G. Currently the ITU has not defined 4G. The International Telecommunication Union sets the basic standards, policies, and definitions for the telecommunication industry. It has been years in the making that everyone is waiting for them to “somewhat” define 4G, but they really have not. The reason being, it is very complex. Without getting into specific details here is a basic ideology of it: most industry leaders look for 4G to be a ubiquitous network. A network that will probably engulf open wireless architecture and smart phones that can detect, authorize, register, and connect onto any network. It’s a user centric philosophy that goes far beyond one single carrier. As such, many companies (with different technologies) have to have some accord on basic functionality for it to really prosper. At the moment, there are three components that most experts concur will drive 4G. The network will use orthogonal multiplexing, MIMO antennas, and be IP based. Although Verizon has LTE and Sprint has WiMAX and both share these basic functions….there is a slew of processes that are still up for debate. As such, Sprint is quick to advertise this is 4G ( since they have these three items). Although these will be components of 4G…it is not holistically 4G. If you were statically looking at a pie, it would only account for 30% of 4G. The remaining 70% is the real challenging aspect of 4G that has not been addressed. Items such as horizontal handoff, latency issues, package losses, billing accountability, security schemes, and overall QoS are still complicated issues that need to be addressed. Again, 4G is not simply just a proliferation of 3G, but candidly a whole new evolution that will require inter-carrier uniformity (on some levels) and common processing features. It’s quite complicated and that’s the reason it’s not out yet. Verizon has similar speeds “4G rates using LTE around the country”, but notice they not advertising it. They call it 3GPP. The industry has been working on 4G for close to a decade, but really has not reached a final decision on how exactly the system/network will work.
    Sprint very well offers (in certain areas) rates that are faster than traditional 3G…..but that does not translate into 4G.

    Thanks for reading.

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    i wonder if it is worth giving up my 30 bucks a month sero plan with unlimited everything, probably not,i wil wait til windows 7 phone comes out and see what ass sprint is going to do to their legacy customers.

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    Iphone 4G FTW

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